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Bill: Refugee bill of 2423

Details

Submitted by^[?]: Conservative Progressive

Status^[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: February 2424

Description^[?]:

when their here, they must be treated well. But if their here, they must have been under extreme circumstances in the country they came from.

Proposal^[?] to change The national refugee policy.

Old value:: All refugees are welcome but no financial aid is given to them.

Current: All refugees are welcome, regardless of their reason, and given aid in integrating them into the country.

Proposed: Only refugees that are victims of extreme circumstances are welcome; they are given integration-aid.

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date	12:54:39, July 04, 2007 CET
From	HaLeumit Tikvah
To	Debating the Refugee bill of 2423
Message	We dont see any reason to turn down refugees just because their circumstances arent extreme enough- they will have a reason to have fled their country. In any case, integration aid is a bad idea. Taking our citizens money and giving it to refugees can only create resentment, and will have the effect of making integration more difficult.

Date	15:08:10, July 04, 2007 CET
From	Conservative Progressive
To	Debating the Refugee bill of 2423
Message	so you mean: "oh yeah just come in here and do whaterver you want, because we won't give you integration-aid!"

Date	15:14:09, July 04, 2007 CET
From	HaLeumit Tikvah
To	Debating the Refugee bill of 2423
Message	No, we're saying "Come here and live by our laws. Like all our citizens, you don't get state hand-outs, you have to work to earn a living."

Date	16:42:42, July 04, 2007 CET
From	Conservative Progressive
To	Debating the Refugee bill of 2423
Message	wrong we don't have anything even close to positive discrimination

Date	18:02:51, July 04, 2007 CET
From	HaLeumit Tikvah
To	Debating the Refugee bill of 2423
Message	We're aware of that, but whats that got to do with anything?

Date	13:23:11, July 05, 2007 CET
From	HaLeumit Tikvah
To	Debating the Refugee bill of 2423
Message	Well technically we do discrimination, positive or otherwise, since we do not legislate employers hiring policies. So, yeah, we could have businesses that will refuse to hire Refugees, but similarly we could have those which only hire them. Its really up to the employer.

Date	14:57:11, July 06, 2007 CET
From	Conservative Progressive
To	Debating the Refugee bill of 2423
Message	but that is out of mind! we need equality!

Date	21:38:05, July 06, 2007 CET
From	HaLeumit Tikvah
To	Debating the Refugee bill of 2423
Message	We need to allow employers to run their business how they want- to do otherwise is grossly unfair.

Date	09:22:43, July 16, 2007 CET
From	Conservative Progressive
To	Debating the Refugee bill of 2423
Message	ok im an imigrant:"i kanna vorka ina maia stora witout problemo of te pioplo dat isa borna hira"

Date	14:42:15, July 16, 2007 CET
From	HaLeumit Tikvah
To	Debating the Refugee bill of 2423
Message	We don't really see your point. For government jobs people are employed based on their merits, and any private company will do the same if they want to succeed. Thats equality. Companies which choose not to, well, then their is inequality, but we cant really tell employers what to do.

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