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Bill: UIF Bill II: Civic Defense
Details
Submitted by[?]: I need to make new party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: May 2428
Description[?]:
| The nation has the responsibility to protect its people during a Nuclear or biological Attack for instance. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Civil defence is the government's policy on providing shelters to be used in the event of attacks on major cities, mainly nuclear attacks and bombing.
Old value:: The government makes no provision for civil defence.
Current: The government builds and maintains a network of shelters across the nation.
Proposed: The government builds and maintains a network of shelters across the nation.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 02:09:55, July 13, 2007 CET | From |  Txurruka/Aperribai/Mayoz's OPX | To | Debating the UIF Bill II: Civic Defense |
| Message | "The nation has the responsibility to protect its people during a Nuclear or biological Attack for instance." Its called Mutually Assured Destruction, a policy which this nation has followed for a good long time. Having bomb shelters violates that. How do our potential enemy nations know that we won't strike first and then run like hell into our little hidey-holes? That thought may make them edgy. |
| Date | 03:31:25, July 13, 2007 CET | From | I need to make new party | To | Debating the UIF Bill II: Civic Defense |
| Message | SO our nation would basically ignore any nuclear threat to us because of a policy. You would think that we might plan for a scenario like when the "Wrong" people get a bomb and will use it. Then what. Then we have LOTS of dead people and lots of displaced people and a HUGE crisis on our hands. Thn who ill they blame. They will blame the government in not planning things through and not seeming to care. |
| Date | 10:59:44, July 13, 2007 CET | From | Txurruka/Aperribai/Mayoz's OPX | To | Debating the UIF Bill II: Civic Defense |
| Message | Let's back up. Mutually Assured Destruction is our nuclear policy. It shows we care. We spend money on maintaining our policy. We prevent attacks by assuring the destruction of our attacker. Since we entered democratic reign, we have not been to war, nuclear or otherwise. The results speak for themselves. Civil defence is therefore unnecessary and undermines MAD. For someone who claims not to be uneducated, you seem to be struggling with basic governmental policy. |
| Date | 16:52:41, July 13, 2007 CET | From | Gazelle Party | To | Debating the UIF Bill II: Civic Defense |
| Message | OP: I'll agree that MAD goes a long way, but we have the responsibility to look after our people and, quite frankly, who cares if our neighbors are "edgy". It would be fickle for them to act on it, but if they did, we'd be safer. I'm new here and had no idea how to research the likelihood of a war, but it seems to me that in the year 2428, it isn't entirely unlikely that a terrorist could get their hands on nuclear weapons. |
| Date | 18:38:06, July 13, 2007 CET | From | I need to make new party | To | Debating the UIF Bill II: Civic Defense |
| Message | Yes you trust the security of our nation on small little policies.... You know what is wrong with MAD its MAD... That is the policy fails and a nuke is coming to us and we ahve no means of protection its going to be ORANGE PARTYS fault cause they think the lives of 100s of millions is okay to put on the line to back up a policy. |
| Date | 03:59:10, July 15, 2007 CET | From | Txurruka/Aperribai/Mayoz's OPX | To | Debating the UIF Bill II: Civic Defense |
| Message | Well don't piss anyone off and we won't have to worry about it now will we? |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 34 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 166 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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