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Bill: Sane Act for Abortion Policy [SAAP]


Submitted by[?]: Democratic Rationalists (PrCoa)

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: April 2430


The Democratic Rationalists are adamantly pro-choice. We believe that a woman's body is her body, and that she should hold primacy over decisions affecting her body.

That being said, we believe there is a competing, valid interest in preventing needless human suffering, and preserving the sanctity of human life.

We believe it is tragic, immoral, and unbefitting the great nation of Aloria that under present abortion policy, a baby may be aborted one day before birth, but magically obtains legal protection one day after birth. In fact, there is no substantial difference between a baby one day before birth, and one day after birth, to warrant such a radical change of policy simply because the baby exists inside the womb one day, and outside the womb the next day.

Current science tells us that a developing human develops the capacity to suffer at some point between the end of the first trimester, and the beginning of the second trimester. At that time, roughly, the developing human has sufficient neural activity, and nerve receptors, that it can experience pain.


1) To prevent needless human suffering, and

2) To preserve the sanctity of human life,

The Democratic Rationalists propose to permit abortions only during the first trimester, except in cases of medical need for the mother. However, the Democratic Rationalists are open to compromise. If, in the judgement of Aloria's other fair political parties, the right to abortion is so important to warrant it, we would be willing to accept a bill to permit abortions only until the end of the second trimester. But please, let's end the practice of last-minute abortions.



These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date18:33:27, July 16, 2007 CET
FromOne Nation Party
ToDebating the Sane Act for Abortion Policy [SAAP]
MessageThis policy actually makes some sense - One Nation supports this.

Date18:45:40, July 16, 2007 CET
FromDemocratic Rationalists (PrCoa)
ToDebating the Sane Act for Abortion Policy [SAAP]
MessageOne Nation, the Democratic Rationalists see great potential for cooperation between our two parties. Hail Aloria!

Date19:20:56, July 16, 2007 CET
FromIndustrialist Party of Aloria
ToDebating the Sane Act for Abortion Policy [SAAP]
MessageWe support this. It will reduce the murder of unborn humans.

Date22:49:39, July 16, 2007 CET
From Moderate Libertarian Party (NoCoalition)
ToDebating the Sane Act for Abortion Policy [SAAP]
MessageThe government politician becomes the doctor by this bill. The MLP don't want the government in our citizens medicine cabinets, bedrooms or wombs, period. This is government interference way out of bounds and open to oppression. We will vote no and encourage our supposedly libertarian bretheran in the CP to follow suit.

Date23:20:05, July 16, 2007 CET
FromDemocratic Rationalists (PrCoa)
ToDebating the Sane Act for Abortion Policy [SAAP]
MessagePoliticians will no more become doctors under this bill than they become God by forbidding the murder of people who have already been born. The government will not interfere with any medically necessary procedures; indeed, our proposal contains specific exceptions to preserve the health of the mother.

This bill protects the woman's right to choose, while diminishing needless human suffering and protecting the inherent dignity of human life. I invite those who have not yet voted to vote in favor of the SAAP.

Date23:23:07, July 16, 2007 CET
FromIndustrialist Party of Aloria
ToDebating the Sane Act for Abortion Policy [SAAP]
MessageWe are opposed to abortion because it is murder.

Besides,we notice everyone advocating abortion has already been born.

Date23:50:09, July 16, 2007 CET
FromDemocratic Rationalists (PrCoa)
ToDebating the Sane Act for Abortion Policy [SAAP]
MessageWhile we respect and appreciate CP's point of view, we stress to those who have not voted that this bill still protects the woman's right to choose whether or not to have an abortion. It only limits the time frame within which the woman may choose whether or not to have an abortion as an elective procedure to the period before the developing human has developed a capacity to suffer.

Date00:13:16, July 17, 2007 CET
FromParty Royale
ToDebating the Sane Act for Abortion Policy [SAAP]
MessageWe would be willing to consider supporting a bill that restricted abortion to the first two trimesters, but we feel that this bill goes too far.

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