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Bill: Corporate Tax Compromise
Details
Submitted by[?]: Gazelle Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 2431
Description[?]:
| A hybrid of two recently failed bills. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Tax percentage of the profit made by corporations.
Old value:: 15
Current: 0
Proposed: 10
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The nation's policy on minimum wage regulation.
Old value:: There is no provision for a minimum wage.
Current: There shall be a minimum wage at a level that a full time worker on it can support a family of four without falling under the poverty line.
Proposed: There shall be a minimum wage at a level that a single full time worker on it can adequately subsist.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 00:04:13, July 17, 2007 CET | From | Free Democrats | To | Debating the Corporate Tax Compromise |
| Message | Minimum wage kills my desire for the corp tax cut. |
| Date | 04:00:32, July 17, 2007 CET | From | I need to make new party | To | Debating the Corporate Tax Compromise |
| Message | Ill vote for this... |
| Date | 04:29:14, July 17, 2007 CET | From |  Txurruka/Aperribai/Mayoz's OPX | To | Debating the Corporate Tax Compromise |
| Message | And we're cutting this tax rather than say the luxury tax or suggesting we cut income taxes because...? Are the corporatist industrialists enjoying your political hand job? OOC: Ah, Particracy - where a politician can be as disgusting, crass and foul-mouthed as anything and not be booted from the legislature for it. |
| Date | 04:47:50, July 17, 2007 CET | From | I need to make new party | To | Debating the Corporate Tax Compromise |
| Message | Maybe this is just the first step to cut the other taxes you speak of... We must start somewhere. Lets say we wanted tax cuts on on income then you would complain about industry. Maybe instead of complaining and using sexual terms to describe your point... If there is one... maybe you should suggest he add tax cuts for income. |
| Date | 05:15:40, July 17, 2007 CET | From | Baltusian Pantian Alliance | To | Debating the Corporate Tax Compromise |
| Message | The BPA is willing to allow them said political hanjob when they shall be releasing the seeds of a stronger economy in the fertile womb that is the soil of Baltusia. OOC: Tried to make it worse however I didnt have much to work with o.o o.O |
| Date | 06:04:36, July 17, 2007 CET | From | Txurruka/Aperribai/Mayoz's OPX | To | Debating the Corporate Tax Compromise |
| Message | "Lets say we wanted tax cuts on on income then you would complain about industry." I wouldn't do that because I'm not retarded. If I'm against industry tax cuts now, why would I flip-flop when other taxes are being cut? Anyway, who said I was in favour of any tax cuts? My point is, however, IF there have to be cuts, why do they go to industry instead of people? |
| Date | 06:04:42, July 17, 2007 CET | From | Gazelle Party | To | Debating the Corporate Tax Compromise |
| Message | "And we're cutting this tax rather than say the luxury tax or suggesting we cut income taxes because...? Are the corporatist industrialists enjoying your political hand job?" Don't act dumb. You know as well as I do that it wasn't political. :) |
| Date | 13:46:52, July 17, 2007 CET | From | Revolutionary Democratic Socialists | To | Debating the Corporate Tax Compromise |
| Message | What the fuck? why do that? This may give the working class peoples some relief in terms of pay, but it would either force so much of the tax burden onto them, or, public serives would have to be drasticaaly cut. this is riddiculous. |
| Date | 18:37:46, July 17, 2007 CET | From | I need to make new party | To | Debating the Corporate Tax Compromise |
| Message | Orang party youare a flip floper... You wih to give all services in the hands of priavte corps yet you deny them tax cuts. If in your mind you want to give the corporations the power to rule over all servcs why not let them have tax cuts. You are confusing me.. |
| Date | 20:05:39, July 17, 2007 CET | From | Gazelle Party | To | Debating the Corporate Tax Compromise |
| Message | I'm sorry, could someone please explain to me what "OOC" is? |
| Date | 20:18:02, July 17, 2007 CET | From | Gazelle Party | To | Debating the Corporate Tax Compromise |
| Message | "This may give the working class peoples some relief in terms of pay, but it would either force so much of the tax burden onto them, or, public serives would have to be drasticaaly cut. this is riddiculous." A minimum wage would do much more for people than any public services could. We'll be ensuring that "a single full time worker on it can adequately subsist". I'm not saying that public services don't mean anything, but I would much rather have a society where workers can't be so easily taken advantage of. The minimum wage will put more money into the pockets of the lower class and the tax cut will help to fill any defecit the minimum wage creates, thus preventing lay-offs; and as far as public services go, I'm sure many of our lower-class citizens would rather put bread on the table than have mail, roads, or even law enforcement; so let's work with what we have and think of new ways to generate revenue. |
| Date | 01:15:53, July 18, 2007 CET | From | Baltusian Pantian Alliance | To | Debating the Corporate Tax Compromise |
| Message | OOC Is an abbreviation for out of character |
| Date | 02:55:27, July 18, 2007 CET | From | Txurruka/Aperribai/Mayoz's OPX | To | Debating the Corporate Tax Compromise |
| Message | "You wih to give all services in the hands of priavte corps yet you deny them tax cuts." How is that flip-flopping? Just because I think the private sector does something better doesn't mean that I think we should bend over and let them have their way at the expense of everyone else. Try and find something better to criticise us for. "You know as well as I do that it wasn't political." *Applauds* Well played, sir. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 39 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 114 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 47 |
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