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Bill: Sovereignty Act of 2431
Details
Submitted by[?]: Reform Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 2433
Description[?]:
| Quotas shall be determined on a year-by-year basis with world events being taken into account for their creation. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change
The government's stance on illegal aliens.
Old value:: The government ignores illegal aliens.
Current: The government ignores illegal aliens.
Proposed: The government does not actively search for illegal aliens, but expels them from the country when discovered.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning immigration.
Old value:: Everyone is allowed to reside permanently in this nation.
Current: Quotas are based on individual applicant's qualifications.
Proposed: No foreigners are permitted to reside permanently in this nation.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 16:07:14, July 20, 2007 CET | From | Union for Social Justice | To | Debating the Sovereignty Act of 2431 |
| Message | The USJ sees no problem with immigration so there is no need for these measures. |
| Date | 19:03:02, July 20, 2007 CET | From | Social Democratic Future Party | To | Debating the Sovereignty Act of 2431 |
| Message | The SDF wil never support a bill which imposes unnecessary draconian searches on peoples houses. |
| Date | 20:55:12, July 20, 2007 CET | From | Union for a Responsible Republic | To | Debating the Sovereignty Act of 2431 |
| Message | We do not support either Article. |
| Date | 01:06:59, July 21, 2007 CET | From | Reform Party | To | Debating the Sovereignty Act of 2431 |
| Message | On the contrary, there is a huge surplus of immigrants. Such an amount leads to unemployment and wage reduction for our domestic workbase. As to the concerns to the SDFP, while we don't support a violation to people's right to be secure in their own homes, either, this proposal was the only one that allowed for active searches and expulsion from the country. Naturally, we would want the illegal immigrants to arrested or searched for outside of their homes, however, the mechanics of the game doesn't allow this. Would you be able to ignore that part of the game's choice of words if the Reform Party changed the description to show that people's security in their homes would not be violated? |
| Date | 11:26:05, July 21, 2007 CET | From | Union for Social Justice | To | Debating the Sovereignty Act of 2431 |
| Message | Where does this idea of surplus immigrants and resulting high unemployment come from. As far as I can see unemployment in all our cantons is on a very acceptable level. |
| Date | 16:19:49, July 21, 2007 CET | From | Reform Party | To | Debating the Sovereignty Act of 2431 |
| Message | When you consider the fact that the maximum unemployment rate in Terra is 10%, and that Akinawa and Hebilon aren't too far from that, it doesn't seem like that may be true. |
| Date | 16:48:25, July 21, 2007 CET | From | Union for Social Justice | To | Debating the Sovereignty Act of 2431 |
| Message | In both Hevilon and Akinawa the unemployment rate doesn't reach 8%. But in itself that wouldn't mean much. It would only call for these policies if it can be linked to higher levels of immigrants in those cantons. The USJ likes the fresh ideas and work ethic many immigrants bring to Cildania. |
| Date | 19:15:46, July 21, 2007 CET | From | Reform Party | To | Debating the Sovereignty Act of 2431 |
| Message | The Reform Party does as well. However, unlimited immigration can be dangerous, both in terms of unemployment and security. If immigration levels are so high that the melting pot can no be sustained, then enclaves to with little central government authority can develop. |
| Date | 23:06:26, July 21, 2007 CET | From | Social Democratic Future Party | To | Debating the Sovereignty Act of 2431 |
| Message | "Would you be able to ignore that part of the game's choice of words if the Reform Party changed the description to show that people's security in their homes would not be violated?" We're concerned with police resources being dedicated to actively searching for illegal immigrants. While we accept that ignoring them is not acceptable, we feel that this solution goes too far. We would much prefer "The government does not actively search for illegal aliens, but expels them from the country when discovered". If this was changed, the SDF would provisionally support this bill provided we would get the Reform Party's assurances that Article 2's quotas would be flexible to take in to account world events at any time. We are not in favour of binding year-on-year quotas for immigration. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 160 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 265 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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