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Bill: ID card revision
Details
Submitted by[?]: Ikradonian Interest
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: May 2435
Description[?]:
| Mandatory carriage for improvement of national services. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government-issued identity card policy.
Old value:: All citizens are issued with identity cards but are not required to carry them.
Current: All citizens are issued with identity cards and are required to carry them at all times.
Proposed: All citizens are issued with identity cards and are required to carry them at all times.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 05:10:37, July 25, 2007 CET |
From |  Ikradonian Interest | To | Debating the ID card revision | | Message | So how are people's right violated this time then? They'll have to carry around some plastic that states what their identity is? |
| Date | 07:17:43, July 25, 2007 CET |
From | Iqembu Sokusebenzisana Yeningi | To | Debating the ID card revision | | Message | What possible purpose does this serve? It is indeed a violation of rights not to be permitted to leave ones home without identification. Freedom of movement, and freedom from unreasonable searches, are basic rights. |
| Date | 19:36:18, July 25, 2007 CET |
From | Bicky Forever - MSCC | To | Debating the ID card revision | | Message | For BF, this proposal is very reasonable, because it works well in most of the developed countries in the real world. We will support. |
| Date | 07:25:46, July 26, 2007 CET |
From | Ikradonian Interest | To | Debating the ID card revision | | Message | freedom of movement is not hindered, freedom from unreasonable searches is not violated. Leaving your home with an ID card isn't such a big deal, people take with them tons of plastic cards nowadays. |
| Date | 16:28:49, July 26, 2007 CET |
From | Iqembu Sokusebenzisana Yeningi | To | Debating the ID card revision | | Message | So if I forget my card when leaving home I am a criminal. Sometimes the people here amaze me.
What industrialized country in the real world has such a policy? |
| Date | 17:52:02, July 26, 2007 CET |
From | Bicky Forever - MSCC | To | Debating the ID card revision | | Message | Almost every European country, one of which I live in. I can guarantee you that no one opposes it because of human rights. When the police find a car after a crash, the injured passenger or the surviving relatives will be happy that the body can be identified, thanks to that identity card.
(and no, I don't live in a country where there is a police officer on every street corner to check your identity! it's almost only used in cases of crime, emergencies or the proove you deserve a price reduction in the cinema because you're under 20) |
| Date | 06:44:09, July 27, 2007 CET |
From | Libertarian-Communist Party | To | Debating the ID card revision | | Message | How do you know the ID cards in this bill will have electronic signatures. That and whats an electronic signature? |
| Date | 11:09:41, July 27, 2007 CET |
From | Bicky Forever - MSCC | To | Debating the ID card revision | | Message | If you can use a driver's license for the case a car accident happens and a student card for the cinema, a fan card of your favourite football club, one with all your data to use in the hospital, ... or just one "universal" card with your name, adress and date of birth, I would know which would be the easiest alternative. |
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| Vote |
Seats |
| yes | Total Seats: 294 |
| no | Total Seats: 305 |
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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