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Bill: Developing society
Details
Submitted by[?]: Citizens Voice
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 2094
Description[?]:
| Although we uderstand the need for tolerance, we cannot accept children being raised by poeple of the same sex. A healthy society must grow and understand some morlan ideas. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning who can proceed with adoption; in case adoption is legal.
Old value:: Everyone may adopt children.
Current: Everyone may adopt children.
Proposed: Only heterosexual couples and singles may adopt children.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 17:42:02, August 09, 2005 CET | From | Edelweiss Party | To | Debating the Developing society |
| Message | NO! |
| Date | 18:23:46, August 09, 2005 CET | From | Edelweiss Party | To | Debating the Developing society |
| Message | The debate to give non-heterosexual couples the right to adopt children was not a symbolic struggle, it was an evolution on the subject that gave us this normal consequence. More and more children grow up in homosexual families, not because they were adopted but because society more and more accepts the fact 'homosexual relationships' exists. What if a lesbian-couple, one of the woman gets a sperm-donor implantation and becomes mother, does that say we have to take away her child because she doesn't have a heterosexual relationship? no! Where do you draw the line in this proposal? Moral issues?? Adoption agencies are under strict conditions, only by passing several tests, couples can adopt children, if a gay-couple applies and they pass, they have been proven qualified, as qualified(maybe better) as any other couple, heterosexual or not. So why shouldn't they be able to adopt? |
| Date | 00:06:36, August 10, 2005 CET | From | Söhne der Freiheit | To | Debating the Developing society |
| Message | Yes. |
| Date | 07:48:23, August 10, 2005 CET | From | Citizens Voice | To | Debating the Developing society |
| Message | Homosexualism is NOT normal in nature. Freedom of choice is something we humans are proud of, that's why we do not oppose sexual couples. However raising children is something competely different. They cannot choose and should be given the conditions the nature has prepared for them. They should live in normal families. As for the situation wiith woman from lesbian couple getting sper donor - it is not a normal situation either - we cannot interferre there, but it doesn't mean we approve that situation. What we can do is make sure that such cases are just a fraction of percentage. |
| Date | 14:00:17, August 10, 2005 CET | From | Edelweiss Party | To | Debating the Developing society |
| Message | First of all, calling homosexualism against nature is an act of very narrow-minded thinking, that almost sounds like something a fundamentalist catholic would say....hummm. Homosexualism has always existed, not only by humans but even in the amazing world of animals, so not normal hé? Normal families cannot be ensured, a single parent by divorce of death is that what you call a normal family to? I repeat, if a homosexual couple passes the adoption-test, they are just a qualified as any other couple. |
| Date | 15:37:01, August 10, 2005 CET | From | AM Radical Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Developing society |
| Message | On a philosophical level, homosexuality can be considered against nature since it is counter-evolutionary. It removes two sets of genes from possiblly continuing. That being said, we are against any blanket prohibitions of any group from participating in any societal functions, including raising children. Therefore, we must oppose this discriminatory proposal, instead believing that the department of Social Services needs to be sure of the quality oif pre-adoption qualification testing. |
| Date | 01:54:12, August 11, 2005 CET | From | Söhne der Freiheit | To | Debating the Developing society |
| Message | "First of all, calling homosexualism against nature is an act of very narrow-minded thinking, that almost sounds like something a fundamentalist catholic would say....hummm. " That's enough Catholic bashing SD. Are you frustrated because your little coup didn't go as planned? |
| Date | 19:29:11, August 11, 2005 CET | From | Edelweiss Party | To | Debating the Developing society |
| Message | CCU: 'coup d'etat?' I was already the largest party and gave you the 'etat'. Why would I coup that. Nono, carry on. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 172 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 80 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 73 |
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