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Bill: Criminal justice reform
Details
Submitted by[?]: Ars Moriendi Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: November 2439
Description[?]:
| Addressing the rampant inequalities currently present in our criminal justice system, where verdicts are bought, sold, and traded at whim by the wealthy while the poor are spit upon and convicted on trumped up charges for the express purpose of employing them as slave labor, and threatened with torture in the face of dissent. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The use of torture for obtaining information.
Old value:: Suspects can only be tortured under grave emergencies where the information is vital.
Current: Torture is never allowed.
Proposed: Torture is never allowed.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Prison policy concerning prisoner labor.
Old value:: Able-bodied prisoners have to work during the day.
Current: Prisoners can do certain jobs in prison, voluntarily, for a small wage.
Proposed: Prisoners can do certain jobs in prison, voluntarily, for a small wage.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 05:39:14, August 04, 2007 CET | From | Riot of Lone Romantics | To | Debating the Criminal justice reform |
| Message | I support this bill |
| Date | 05:44:15, August 04, 2007 CET | From | Ordo Inordatum | To | Debating the Criminal justice reform |
| Message | Your repeated dissent and encouragement of criminal behavior has been noted. |
| Date | 08:12:33, August 04, 2007 CET | From | Riot of Lone Romantics | To | Debating the Criminal justice reform |
| Message | We support Article One. We believe that Article Two need not be changed. |
| Date | 11:26:13, August 04, 2007 CET | From |  Likaton Coalition of the Willing | To | Debating the Criminal justice reform |
| Message | Pay....prisoners.... Allow....terrorists...to keep...secrets... The very concept renders us Shatneresque. No sir. No. |
| Date | 10:05:23, August 05, 2007 CET | From | Riot of Lone Romantics | To | Debating the Criminal justice reform |
| Message | Torture is not the only way to extract information from terrorists. The issue here is if we torture someone we thought of as terrorist, but was instead innocent. That would be a crime against our morality. |
| Date | 10:36:24, August 05, 2007 CET | From | Likaton Coalition of the Willing | To | Debating the Criminal justice reform |
| Message | The crime here would be letting many innocents die because we are too squeamish to risk harming one innocent to stop it. In any case, our intelligence agencies are very good, and hardly ever get it wrong. The innocent have nothing to fear from the law....But the Lone Romantics do fear the law...so maybe you are not as innocent as you should be. I am sure that any investigation into your 'organisation' will reveal nothing untoward. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 0 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 378 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 288 |
| Random fact: Real-life organisations should not be referenced in Particracy, unless they are simple and generic (eg. "National Organisation for Women" is allowed). |
| Random quote: "Benefits should be conferred gradually; and in that way they will taste better." - Niccolo Machiavelli |