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Bill: Budget proposal of April 2442
Details
Submitted by[?]: Union of Democratic Socialists
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill proposes to change the allocation of funds in the budget. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2446
Description[?]:
The Social Responsibility Party propose to adjust the government's spending budget to better cope with any war Jakania is involved with in the near future. |
Proposals
Article 1
Ministry | Current Budget | Old Budget | Propesed Budget |
Head of Government | 70,000,000 JAK | 40,000,000 JAK | 40,000,000 JAK |
Foreign Affairs | 4,800,000,000 JAK | 4,500,000,000 JAK | 7,500,000,000 JAK |
Internal Affairs | 11,700,000,000 JAK | 4,500,000,000 JAK | 7,500,000,000 JAK |
Finance | 7,700,000,000 JAK | 4,500,000,000 JAK | 6,000,000,000 JAK |
Defence | 90,000,000,000 JAK | 40,000,000,000 JAK | 70,000,000,000 JAK |
Justice | 6,000,000,000 JAK | 8,000,000,000 JAK | 8,000,000,000 JAK |
Infrastructure and Transport | 236,000,000,000 JAK | 8,000,000,000 JAK | 10,000,000,000 JAK |
Health and Social Services | 297,000,000,000 JAK | 8,000,000,000 JAK | 10,000,000,000 JAK |
Education and Culture | 188,000,000,000 JAK | 8,000,000,000 JAK | 8,000,000,000 JAK |
Science and Technology | 35,500,000,000 JAK | 12,000,000,000 JAK | 12,000,000,000 JAK |
Food and Agriculture | 14,000,000,000 JAK | 8,000,000,000 JAK | 8,000,000,000 JAK |
Environment and Tourism | 7,200,000,000 JAK | 7,500,000,000 JAK | 8,000,000,000 JAK |
Trade and Industry | 50,000,000,000 JAK | 8,000,000,000 JAK | 10,000,000,000 JAK |
Total | 947,970,000,000 JAK | 121,040,000,000 JAK | 165,040,000,000 JAK |
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 19:38:19, August 14, 2007 CET | From | Union of Democratic Socialists | To | Debating the Budget proposal of April 2442 |
Message | Nicholas Trent, Finance Minister: "We have drafted this new public spending bill in light of the recently passed new taxation bill. We have made several changes to the budget, most of which will be outlined in a Ministry of Finance document, which is being sent to all parties as I speak. I trust the other Jakanian parties will support this bill." |
Date | 19:48:57, August 14, 2007 CET | From | Union of Democratic Socialists | To | Debating the Budget proposal of April 2442 |
Message | MINISTRY OF FINANCE RE: Taxation Bill, April 2442. - Increase to foreign affairs budget in order to deploy extra diplomatic personnel in allied countries, and to cover possible costs of evacuation in the case of war. - Increase to internal affairs budget in order to fund extra police and to secure Jakania's borders, both with Deltaria and with other nations, in light of the current international tension and refugee situation. - Increase to finance ministry's budget to implement and enforce the higher taxes on luxuries and corporations. - Increase to defence budget in order to facilitate further mobilisation of ground, air and naval forces, and to purchase ammunition, fuel, et cetera. - Increase to infrastructure and transport department's budget in for extra roadworkers to make all roads in border areas suitable for the passage of heavy tanks, armoured cars, et cetera, and to take down road signs in case of foreign invasion. - Increase to health and social services budget to deal with influx of Deltarian refugees, and to build helipads at all large hospitals for military and civilian casualties. - Increase to environment and tourism budget to allow implementation of the recent Jakanian Environmental Act. - Increase to trade and industry budget to assist business while market supply and demand acclimatise to the new tax conditions. |
Date | 19:50:09, August 14, 2007 CET | From | Union of Democratic Socialists | To | Debating the Budget proposal of April 2442 |
Message | Just a note: I'm not putting it to vote until after the election, so feel free to discuss any points you like/dislike. |
Date | 20:56:09, August 14, 2007 CET | From | United Democrats of Jakania | To | Debating the Budget proposal of April 2442 |
Message | "If I may say so, Justice and Education are fairly underfunded, any notable increase in either would be greatly appreciated" -Jacob Kotowski |
Date | 21:20:37, August 14, 2007 CET | From | United Democrats of Jakania | To | Debating the Budget proposal of April 2442 |
Message | Oh, and if Deltaria does invade, a 70 billion defence budget might not really do much against a 750 billion one. Who can we rely on if they do invade? Watuni?, they've got 150 billion defence budget. Solentia? There's is 33 billion. Corduba? There's is only 13 billion. What will we do on the off-chance of an invasion? Take all money out of every other area? Not a chance. What will we do if they do invade? |
Date | 00:26:13, August 15, 2007 CET | From | Social Religious Party | To | Debating the Budget proposal of April 2442 |
Message | So, you propose a 30,000,000,000 JAK increase to the defense budget, but only a 2,000,000,000 JAK increase to the Health and Social Services budget? And you say you're trying to "adjust the government's spending budget to better address the economic and social situation of the United Jakania." What about Education and Culture, Justice, Food and Agriculture? You don't improve the social situation by increasing the defense budget... |
Date | 03:08:19, August 15, 2007 CET | From | World Wrestling Federation | To | Debating the Budget proposal of April 2442 |
Message | Oooooh yeeeeeah, this is big money, but within our means! |
Date | 03:08:51, August 15, 2007 CET | From | World Wrestling Federation | To | Debating the Budget proposal of April 2442 |
Message | Did they fix the clock bug? elections might never come |
Date | 05:37:52, August 15, 2007 CET | From | United Democrats of Jakania | To | Debating the Budget proposal of April 2442 |
Message | Apparently not. It's been April for quite some time |
Date | 08:51:10, August 15, 2007 CET | From | Union of Democratic Socialists | To | Debating the Budget proposal of April 2442 |
Message | Regarding the criticism from the Social Religious Party: That's the default title it gives to the bill, and I forgot to change it to reflect the fact that this is an emergency tax bill, made to help the nation in event of a war. I have now changed the description to reflect the true thinking behind this bill. And regarding the UDJ's worries: In the event of an invasion, we'll put up as much as a fight as we can, and hope that a combination of international efforts and those of our close allies will allow us to hold out against the aggressors, but I'm sure our Defence Minister will have more of an idea. And even if we do end up occupied, the people of Jakania will almost definitely support a guerilla movement. |
Date | 20:05:24, August 16, 2007 CET | From | Social Religious Party | To | Debating the Budget proposal of April 2442 |
Message | Weren't the elections supposed to be in November? |
Date | 10:30:41, August 17, 2007 CET | From | Union of Democratic Socialists | To | Debating the Budget proposal of April 2442 |
Message | Apparently so, but the elections part of the month tick seems to have a bug. Hopefully the admins will have it sorted soon. |
Date | 03:20:07, August 22, 2007 CET | From | World Wrestling Federation | To | Debating the Budget proposal of April 2442 |
Message | We've come to a new decision on the budget.. While we are happy with the funds that would be appropriated to defense, we cannot come to a solid decision the increase within other departments. |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | |||
yes | Total Seats: 84 | |||
no | Total Seats: 116 | |||
abstain | Total Seats: 50 |
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