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Bill: Drug-use Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Party for Individualism and Kitties
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2445
Description[?]:
| if people want to take drugs the government shall not stop them. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The recreational drug policy.
Old value:: Recreational drug use is forbidden.
Current: The use of cannabis is legal.
Proposed: There are no laws regulating what citizens can put into their bodies.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 18:48:10, August 19, 2007 CET | From |  Revolucia Partio de Koburo | To | Debating the Drug-use Act |
| Message | we agree |
| Date | 18:58:30, August 19, 2007 CET | From | Democratic Labour Party of Cobura | To | Debating the Drug-use Act |
| Message | Drugs will damage the person's health and what if someone leaves a needle in the streets and a child get's pricked? |
| Date | 19:02:53, August 19, 2007 CET | From | Revolucia Partio de Koburo | To | Debating the Drug-use Act |
| Message | that's why you set up free-heroin clinics/harm reduction centers |
| Date | 19:11:27, August 19, 2007 CET | From | Coburan Reform Party | To | Debating the Drug-use Act |
| Message | You think a five year old is going to admit themselves to rehabilitation center? Drugs damage society and we should not be glamorizing them! This reminds me of the end of the Roman empire, They argued over what vices they could legalese until they were destroyed and civilization itself almost cam to an end! |
| Date | 19:21:41, August 19, 2007 CET | From | Revolucia Partio de Koburo | To | Debating the Drug-use Act |
| Message | "You think a five year old is going to admit themselves to rehabilitation center?" If a five year old is taking drugs, then his parents aren't exactly brilliant. "Drugs damage society and we should not be glamorizing them!" No. It is their very illegality that damages society. "They argued over what vices they could legalese until they were destroyed and civilization itself almost cam to an end!" That is not how the Roman Empire fell. |
| Date | 19:25:40, August 19, 2007 CET | From | Coburan Reform Party | To | Debating the Drug-use Act |
| Message | Yes I know it was Germanic tribes, but It did weaken it... Also if a child is taking drugs then it is the fault of the person who left them there not the parents |
| Date | 19:29:22, August 19, 2007 CET | From | Party for Individualism and Kitties | To | Debating the Drug-use Act |
| Message | even if a child finds a needle in the streets, i don't think it will give himself an injection. |
| Date | 19:31:58, August 19, 2007 CET | From | Democratic Labour Party of Cobura | To | Debating the Drug-use Act |
| Message | They may accidentrly prick themselves |
| Date | 19:32:25, August 19, 2007 CET | From | Democratic Labour Party of Cobura | To | Debating the Drug-use Act |
| Message | besdies there is the health problems, and the addiction,. |
| Date | 19:35:48, August 19, 2007 CET | From | Revolucia Partio de Koburo | To | Debating the Drug-use Act |
| Message | "Also if a child is taking drugs then it is the fault of the person who left them there not the parents" That's what the heroin clinics are for, so they don't take needles outside. |
| Date | 19:36:55, August 19, 2007 CET | From | Coburan Reform Party | To | Debating the Drug-use Act |
| Message | Do you think thats going to stop heroin addicts? |
| Date | 19:37:23, August 19, 2007 CET | From | Revolucia Partio de Koburo | To | Debating the Drug-use Act |
| Message | "besdies there is the health problems, and the addiction,." Studies show that free heroin clinics and treatment centres help immensely with health problems and addiction. Not only does general health improve, but patients are able to get a job, housing, etc. |
| Date | 19:38:12, August 19, 2007 CET | From | Party for Individualism and Kitties | To | Debating the Drug-use Act |
| Message | that's true, but if that are your arguments you have to forbid alcohol as well. Alcohol is much more dangerous, because it gets no attention. More people get addicted to alcohol than to "hard drugs". |
| Date | 19:44:49, August 19, 2007 CET | From | Revolucia Partio de Koburo | To | Debating the Drug-use Act |
| Message | "and civilization itself almost cam to an end" Can't believe I missed that bit. What exactly are you referring to? Do you still believe in the myth of the wild, Germanic and Eastern savages plundering Europe? |
| Date | 19:47:28, August 19, 2007 CET | From | Coburan Reform Party | To | Debating the Drug-use Act |
| Message | The Dark ages...... |
| Date | 19:51:57, August 19, 2007 CET | From | Revolucia Partio de Koburo | To | Debating the Drug-use Act |
| Message | the term "dark ages" refers to the fact there is little written history or cultural achievements in that time |
| Date | 19:54:19, August 19, 2007 CET | From | Coburan Reform Party | To | Debating the Drug-use Act |
| Message | Don't cultural achievements and historical records constitute civilization? |
| Date | 19:55:37, August 19, 2007 CET | From | Coburan Reform Party | To | Debating the Drug-use Act |
| Message | Alright, that was a bad argument against drugs |
| Date | 19:56:23, August 19, 2007 CET | From | Revolucia Partio de Koburo | To | Debating the Drug-use Act |
| Message | "civilisation noun 1. the social process whereby societies achieve an advanced stage of development and organization [syn: civilization] 2. a particular society at a particular time and place; "early Mayan civilization" [syn: culture] 3. a society in an advanced state of social development (e.g., with complex legal and political and religious organizations); "the people slowly progressed from barbarism to civilization" [syn: civilization] 4. the quality of excellence in thought and manners and taste; "a man of intellectual refinement"; "he is remembered for his generosity and civilization" [syn: refinement] " |
| Date | 20:00:11, August 19, 2007 CET | From | Coburan Reform Party | To | Debating the Drug-use Act |
| Message | Maybe you should read the book "Civilization" |
| Date | 20:02:29, August 19, 2007 CET | From | Revolucia Partio de Koburo | To | Debating the Drug-use Act |
| Message | For what purpose? I know what civilisation is. I know the origins of the word, and all it's modern usage. |
| Date | 20:03:36, August 19, 2007 CET | From | Revolucia Partio de Koburo | To | Debating the Drug-use Act |
| Message | The fall of the Roman Empire was the fall of 'a' civilisation, not civilisation itself. |
| Date | 20:11:59, August 19, 2007 CET | From | Coburan Reform Party | To | Debating the Drug-use Act |
| Message | It was the fall of culture and without culture civilization is an empty formula |
| Date | 20:14:04, August 19, 2007 CET | From | Revolucia Partio de Koburo | To | Debating the Drug-use Act |
| Message | are you saying no other civilisation had culture? |
| Date | 20:16:03, August 19, 2007 CET | From | Coburan Reform Party | To | Debating the Drug-use Act |
| Message | No, but no other civilization in EUROPE had the same LEVEL of culture as Rome However civilization was flourishing in Asia and the Americas and in Africa |
| Date | 20:19:24, August 19, 2007 CET | From | Revolucia Partio de Koburo | To | Debating the Drug-use Act |
| Message | what exactly is your point then? |
| Date | 20:22:15, August 19, 2007 CET | From | Coburan Reform Party | To | Debating the Drug-use Act |
| Message | Nothing, It was bad argument, I was just trying to say that drugs weaken society and create poverty. |
| Date | 20:25:48, August 19, 2007 CET | From | Revolucia Partio de Koburo | To | Debating the Drug-use Act |
| Message | the illegality of drugs weakens society and creates poverty |
| Date | 21:18:27, August 19, 2007 CET | From | Coburan Reform Party | To | Debating the Drug-use Act |
| Message | The most important argument there is to preventing youngsters from using drugs is that it is illegal, Although we should focus on treating drug addicts not imprisoning them |
| Date | 23:05:29, August 19, 2007 CET | From | Federalist Party | To | Debating the Drug-use Act |
| Message | Id like to see this study RPC...do you have a link? |
| Date | 23:14:48, August 19, 2007 CET | From | Federalist Party | To | Debating the Drug-use Act |
| Message | I'll finish my sentence, heh... ...do you have a link to the site of the study or some proof that it actually exists? |
| Date | 23:34:29, August 19, 2007 CET | From | Revolucia Partio de Koburo | To | Debating the Drug-use Act |
| Message | Yes, I could probably find a link. It was a program in Germany (I've forgotten the city, Hamburg maybe?). I studied some of their reports a while ago at uni |
| Date | 23:36:43, August 19, 2007 CET | From | Revolucia Partio de Koburo | To | Debating the Drug-use Act |
| Message | just for starters: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/5043766.stm |
| Date | 23:46:05, August 19, 2007 CET | From | Revolucia Partio de Koburo | To | Debating the Drug-use Act |
| Message | Official website (just click on english information if you need it in English): http://www.heroinstudie.de/ |
| Date | 20:57:46, August 20, 2007 CET | From | Revolucia Partio de Koburo | To | Debating the Drug-use Act |
| Message | No one want to dispute the study then? |
| Date | 12:35:13, October 28, 2007 CET | From | Coburan Reform Party | To | Debating the Drug-use Act |
| Message | If children see people taking drugs freely then they are going to want to take drugs, Do you really want 6 year old drug addicts? |
| Date | 14:09:19, October 28, 2007 CET | From | Revolucia Partio de Koburo | To | Debating the Drug-use Act |
| Message | No. That's complete nonsense, that any sociologist could easily dismiss. |
| Date | 14:18:50, October 28, 2007 CET | From | Coburan Reform Party | To | Debating the Drug-use Act |
| Message | Okay, Fine. I disagree with legalising drugs, Deal with it. :D |
| Date | 14:26:09, October 28, 2007 CET | From | Revolucia Partio de Koburo | To | Debating the Drug-use Act |
| Message | I am dealing with it. I'm telling you how utterly wrong you are. |
| Date | 14:35:34, October 28, 2007 CET | From | Revolucia Partio de Koburo | To | Debating the Drug-use Act |
| Message | :P |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 283 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 200 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 17 |
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