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Bill: Education (Charter Schools) Act

Details

Submitted by[?]: Conservative Nationalist Party

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: February 2445

Description[?]:

Chaerter Schools should be allowed in this country, private educatiton does wonders!

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date21:30:39, August 19, 2007 CET
FromCSA Pax et Socialism
ToDebating the Education (Charter Schools) Act
MessageName one person from a charter school who's had a good education, and for that, I will name 20 people who have had to pay his taxes, just under $250,000 for education, and DIDN'T go to a charter school.

Date21:32:47, August 19, 2007 CET
FromCSA Pax et Socialism
ToDebating the Education (Charter Schools) Act
MessageA person we all know, a scientist, university teacher, architect, don't make up some Joe Smoe name.

And if you have to use google to find one, you have defeated the person and prove my own perspective on charter schools.

Date11:01:12, August 20, 2007 CET
FromCosa Nostra
ToDebating the Education (Charter Schools) Act
MessageOOC: hmm... charter schools seem to be a mainly US concept, so I had to do some looking up to get acquainted with it. From what I have read here and there neither the pros nor the cons seem to be very convincing, which means charter schools are just another form of education. Which means more choice for the people, which we think is a good thing: freedom of choice embodies freedom in general. That is why we vote yes.

Date17:36:42, August 20, 2007 CET
FromCSA Pax et Socialism
ToDebating the Education (Charter Schools) Act
MessageDon't be so naive about charter schools and vote for something you don't comprehend.

* Schools of choice create inequities by taking the more desirable students.

* Students in schools of choice have fewer opportunities to learn from students of different backgrounds.

* School choice changes the focus from education for the public good to education for the private good. Education is no longer being seen as providing "some common experiences in common settings." Will those without children in schools continue to support education in light of this change?

Date17:37:52, August 20, 2007 CET
FromCSA Pax et Socialism
ToDebating the Education (Charter Schools) Act
MessageIn the town of Gonzalez, prosecutors said this spring, operators of the Escambia Charter School taught students for an hour a day four days of the week -- and hired them out to work on state road projects the rest of the time.

Date17:39:24, August 20, 2007 CET
FromCSA Pax et Socialism
ToDebating the Education (Charter Schools) Act
MessageTeachers at a new charter school can't join the districtwide union for the first five years of the school's operation. At that point, they can elect to join. They can form their own collective bargaining unit in the first five years, but it will be limited to that one school.

Date17:40:46, August 20, 2007 CET
FromCSA Pax et Socialism
ToDebating the Education (Charter Schools) Act
MessageQ: Can the school pick and choose its students?

A: No. Enrollment may be limited only on the basis of age group or grade level. If more students apply than the school has space for, it must fill the slots through a lottery (except that siblings of already-enrolled students get preference). Conversion charter schools must guarantee slots to any students enrolled in the school before its conversion.

Q: How is a charter school different from a regular public school?

A: It can operate outside the regular administrative structure of the local school district and school board, free of many state regulations. That means the operators can hire whom they want as principal or as teachers, can choose curriculums and set up a schedule for the school day and year, for example, independently of the district administration and school board.

Date23:25:32, August 20, 2007 CET
FromCosa Nostra
ToDebating the Education (Charter Schools) Act
MessageI still don't see the problem, as long as there are other schools to choose from.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
  

Total Seats: 125

no
    

Total Seats: 348

abstain
  

Total Seats: 82


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