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Bill: Abolition of Inhumane Punishment and Torture
Details
Submitted by[?]: Green Union
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: May 2447
Description[?]:
| Barbaric practices such as torture and death penalty have no place in a civilized state such as Talmoria. The Green Union therefore proposes the illegalization of such practices. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy with respect to the death penalty.
Old value:: The death penalty is not applied, except for terrorism, treason and crimes against mankind.
Current: The death penalty is not applied, except for terrorism, treason and crimes against mankind.
Proposed: The death penalty is illegal and is never to be applied.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The use of torture for obtaining information.
Old value:: It is at the discretion of the police officer to torture suspects for information.
Current: Torture is never allowed.
Proposed: Torture is never allowed.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 05:45:21, August 24, 2007 CET | From |  Delath Ra | To | Debating the Abolition of Inhumane Punishment and Torture |
| Message | Article one: We must weigh the right to public safety along with individual rights. To allow through inaction the safety and perhaps lives of our citizenry to be comprised the state is derelict in it primary duty of ensuring the security of the whole. Article two: We cannot allow the worst of criminals to die a slow, and natural death. Many of these 'people' are icons to their community by executing them we can strike a blow both practically and symbolically against their movements. Should we, as a society, allow the enemies of humanity to linger hopefully quietly die in our care, or do we send the message that the Republic of Talmoria confronts them directly?! Do we slough of our duties a humans in the name of some convenient excuse of ideology or do we do what we all know to be right and tackle these issues head on? We says no, on this measure. |
| Date | 08:14:59, August 24, 2007 CET | From | Green Union | To | Debating the Abolition of Inhumane Punishment and Torture |
| Message | Talmoria should give the message that it transcends petty violence and unlike the criminals who take lives of other people into their hands, Talmoria does not. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 266 | |||||
| no | Total Seats: 93 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 141 |
| Random fact: References to prominent real-life persons are not allowed. This includes references to philosophies featuring the name of a real-life person (eg. "Marxism", "Thatcherism", "Keynesianism"). |
| Random quote: "Capitalism is what people do if you leave them alone" - Kenneth Minogue |