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Bill: Religions (Freedom) Act

Details

Submitted by[?]: Conservative Nationalist Party

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: December 2446

Description[?]:

Recognized religions should not be taxed

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date14:03:33, August 23, 2007 CET
FromCosa Nostra
ToDebating the Religions (Freedom) Act
MessageThere was this pastor who was collecting the coins he received after mass. A boy that had stayed behind, asked the pastor: "What are you going to do with that money, Father?".

"Well, my son," he replied, "I will share it with the good Lord."

"And how will you do that, Father", the boy asked.

"Easy, my son, I will throw all the money in the air and the Lord may keep whatever he can catch."

Date22:28:04, August 23, 2007 CET
FromCSA Pax et Socialism
ToDebating the Religions (Freedom) Act
MessageIf you're going to tax religion, why don't you tax the way I think? You're a capitalist, yet this is the type of bill Stalin or Kim Jong Il would pass. I may be an atheist, and think ESTABLISHED (not "recognized") religions are corrupt businesses used to control the minds, spirits, and souls of the poor classes, but you cannot persecute religions.

This is a step in the right direction, to get rid of taxation, only if it were "Established religions ARE taxed."

I saw a humongous Catholic church in Italy once, gold everything. Near the entrance was a donation box for a new gold chandelier.

I saw a small crippled Eastern Orthodox church on a hill in Romania once, made of a few piles of lumber, no windows, no larger than a living room. Near the door there was a donation box, for needy children.

Date11:54:47, August 24, 2007 CET
FromCosa Nostra
ToDebating the Religions (Freedom) Act
MessageIf you pay attention, you see that currently charitable donations are not taxed. And as for taxing the way you think: religion is a belief, a way of life, a personal thing - religionS are organised structures, and as such should be viewed and 'controlled' as companies, in order to avoid excesses.


Date13:04:51, August 24, 2007 CET
FromConservative Nationalist Party
ToDebating the Religions (Freedom) Act
MessageI cant stand the way you keep saying religion is somehow just a personal thing. That may be so, but that means we believe our God exists, and that includes outside of our own minds. We have a right to organise (like workers), worship together, in the way we want, without being taxed for the priveledge!

Date13:17:27, August 24, 2007 CET
FromCosa Nostra
ToDebating the Religions (Freedom) Act
MessageAnd I can't stand the way you keep connecting religion with god. Religion is a spiritual way to look at the world around you, that's what makes it personal. It has nothing to do with some almighty creature or force or whatever.

I can understand people that think alike wish to unite in 'churches' or 'communities' or whatever. It's only when they start thinking theirs is the one and only Truth, that it tends to bother me. I'd like to think people have their own spiritual truth. Or their own relation with God, if that makes it more comprehensible for you.

Date17:04:17, August 24, 2007 CET
FromCSA Pax et Socialism
ToDebating the Religions (Freedom) Act
Message"religionS are organised structures"
That's simply not true, they are a way of thinking. Corrupt ones, like the Catholic church and everything else that you glance at and say "wow, was God this materialistic?"

"I'd like to think people have their own spiritual truth"
But you'd like to tax those who do.

Date14:09:13, August 26, 2007 CET
FromCosa Nostra
ToDebating the Religions (Freedom) Act
MessageNo, I'd like to tax what you call 'corrupt religions'.

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