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Bill: Axis Mundi Sturm und Drang Partei Manifesto - New World Order (v)
Details
Submitted by[?]: Commonwealth Workers Army
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 2447
Description[?]:
| Likatonian law requires that every individual serve a term in the military, upon completion of schooling. This means our potential reserve which can be called upon, is every citizen. Thus - we clearly have a well regulated 'militia' and - as such - there is no requirement for individual citizens to be armed with lethal technologies. If a citizen wishes to practise shooting, or other weapon techniques, he or she can easily accomodate these desires at their local militia Training Grounds. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Ownership of guns by private individuals.
Old value:: Individuals are allowed to own firearms as long as they do not have a history of dangerous mental illness or a violent criminality.
Current: Adult individuals are allowed to own and purchase guns freely.
Proposed: Individuals are not permitted to own firearms under any circumstances.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Weapons allowed to private citizens.
Old value:: Only certain types of weapons may be owned by the general public, but these may be carried anywhere except as determined by the property owner.
Current: Citizens may own any type of weapon. They may be carried anywhere except as determined by the property owner.
Proposed: Only certain types of weapons may be owned by the general public, and there are further restrictions on places where they may be carried.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 17:28:19, August 23, 2007 CET | From |  Likaton Coalition of the Willing | To | Debating the Axis Mundi Sturm und Drang Partei Manifesto - New World Order (v) |
| Message | This is a perfectly sensible Bill, especially considering the Ars Moriendi policy on it's own party security forces, and it's constant threats of use of force. |
| Date | 17:40:20, August 23, 2007 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Axis Mundi Sturm und Drang Partei Manifesto - New World Order (v) |
| Message | We have no wish to see a return to the days where individual Likatonian parties maintained private armies. The tragedy in the wake of the Anakagrad Parklands Addresses must not be allowed to resurrect it's spirit in the corridors of power of the Convocation. |
| Date | 17:43:06, August 23, 2007 CET | From | Likaton Coalition of the Willing | To | Debating the Axis Mundi Sturm und Drang Partei Manifesto - New World Order (v) |
| Message | Certainly not. There should only be one Army in Likaton territory, and that is accountable and run by and for the Likaton people. |
| Date | 14:29:53, August 24, 2007 CET | From | AM Radical Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Axis Mundi Sturm und Drang Partei Manifesto - New World Order (v) |
| Message | The rights of the people to bear arms must not be infringed. Only thus can the people effectivly defend themselves against threats, either external of internal. |
| Date | 15:27:33, August 24, 2007 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Axis Mundi Sturm und Drang Partei Manifesto - New World Order (v) |
| Message | Surely a well regulated militia is effective defence against threats from the internal danger just as much as against invaders? We have 100% military service - our militia is potentially individual, neighbourhood, community, region, prefecture and national security. |
| Date | 19:57:16, August 24, 2007 CET | From | AM Radical Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Axis Mundi Sturm und Drang Partei Manifesto - New World Order (v) |
| Message | As the militia is armed by, and controlled by, the government; who then defends the people against some future government less interested in their rights than our current one? |
| Date | 20:04:53, August 25, 2007 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Axis Mundi Sturm und Drang Partei Manifesto - New World Order (v) |
| Message | We do understand the concerns of the AM RLP... but we detect a conflict... The AM RLP seem worried that there is no control mechanism to stop the militia from turning against the people.... but the militia IS the people - all of them. ALL Likatonians are present-or-former militia members. How does a body that consists of everyone in the nation - turn on 'the people'. Another thought occurs to us - you have a problem with this idea of a militia turning on it's citizens... but couldn't an armed populace do exactly the same thing - without even the potential for control that is inherent in a military structure? |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 243 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 151 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 214 |
| Random fact: Particracy does not allow real-life brand names (eg. Coca Cola, McDonalds, Microsoft). However, in the case of military equipment brand names it is permitted to use simple number-letter combinations (eg. T-90 and F-22) borrowed from real life, and also simple generic names, like those of animals (eg. Leopard and Jaguar). |
| Random quote: "If the Third World War is fought with nuclear weapons, the fourth will be fought with bows and arrows." - Louis Mountbatten |