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Bill: Freedom is not Free

Details

Submitted by[?]: AM Radical Libertarian Party

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: June 2448

Description[?]:

We deserve maximum freedom, but it must be paid for by maximum responsibility

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date20:10:07, August 25, 2007 CET
FromCommonwealth Workers Army
ToDebating the Freedom is not Free
MessageSome excellent suggestions here... and some where we perceive some real conflict. On balance... we simply cannot support.

For example - why make ALL television stations private? Is it so bad that there be state-sponsored educational packages rather than all channels being dedicated to maximised return on investment. We all know what that leads to - in the end - tits and ass on every channel, and 'reality' tv from dusk till dawn because it's cheaper than real programming.

It's a shame. If the defence elements of this bill were separated from the rest, we could support. In the context of this agenda we are going to have to oppose legislation we are firmly in favour of, because we cannot accept the material that overwhelms it.

Date14:59:34, August 27, 2007 CET
FromAM Radical Libertarian Party
ToDebating the Freedom is not Free
MessageWe are willing to compromise on some issues in order to get this passed. For example, would you feel better about 12 if we included a government run station along with the private ones?

Date15:41:38, August 27, 2007 CET
FromCommonwealth Workers Army
ToDebating the Freedom is not Free
MessageWe agree with: One, Nine, Eleven and Twelve.
We could be convinced on Two, Four and Ten.

Everything else is either unnecessarily extreme (Articles 5 and 6), unreasonable departure from a balanced model (Article Eight), or completely contrary to our platform (Article Seven).

Date17:41:06, August 27, 2007 CET
FromAM Radical Libertarian Party
ToDebating the Freedom is not Free
MessageArticles 5 and 6 have been made less extreme; 7 and 8 will be introduced at a later date when teh results of increased economic freedom have become apparent. (Numbers have changed due to the dropping and adding of proposals)

Date20:50:40, August 27, 2007 CET
FromCommonwealth Workers Army
ToDebating the Freedom is not Free
MessageAs it stands, we have one or two reservations, but we feel we can offer support, with the blessing of our constituents.

We thank the AM RLP for finding middleground, we are glad to be able to support a lot of this legislation, and we appreciate the effort of RLP advocates in making it possible.

Date21:12:09, August 28, 2007 CET
FromParty of Socialist Democrats
ToDebating the Freedom is not Free
MessageDeath penalty and nuclear weapons? We won't support that.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
  

Total Seats: 177

no
   

Total Seats: 294

abstain
   

Total Seats: 195


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