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Bill: Aesthetic and pacifist bill 2447 for true pacifism
Details
Submitted by[?]: "Le Chaim" - Aesthetic Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2449
Description[?]:
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Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning biological and chemical weaponry.
Old value:: The nation reserves the right to develop, construct and store biological and chemical weapons.
Current: The nation shall never purchase, produce, or store biological or chemical weaponry, for military purposes. Research and development of the technology is permitted.
Proposed: The nation shall never develop, purchase or store biological or chemical weaponry.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the use of chemical and biological weaponry in warfare.
Old value:: The nation shall never use chemical or biological weapons in warfare unless another nation uses them first.
Current: The nation shall never use chemical or biological weaponry in warfare.
Proposed: The nation shall never use chemical or biological weaponry in warfare.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The nation's policy on the separation of the police and the military.
Old value:: A civilian police force is in place and the military may be called in to help in serious emergencies.
Current: A civilian police force is in place and the military may be called in to help in serious emergencies.
Proposed: A civilian police force is in place and the military is not allowed to play any part in it.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the use of nuclear weaponry in warfare.
Old value:: The nation reserves the right to nuclear weapons in retaliation to a nuclear, chemical or biological attack.
Current: The nation reserves the right to use nuclear weapons if victory is not feasibile by other means.
Proposed: The nation shall never use nuclear weapons in warfare.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change The policy with respect to nuclear weaponry.
Old value:: The nation reserves the right to develop, produce and store nuclear arms.
Current: The nation reserves the right to develop, produce and store nuclear arms.
Proposed: The nation shall never develop, produce or store nuclear weaponry.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 19:57:33, August 27, 2007 CET | From | God's and the King's Fighters | To | Debating the Aesthetic and pacifist bill 2447 for true pacifism |
| Message | We object to article 3, but the rest is good. |
| Date | 00:43:18, August 28, 2007 CET | From | Hutorian Anarcho-Communist Party | To | Debating the Aesthetic and pacifist bill 2447 for true pacifism |
| Message | How can you object to article 3 but not article 4? Do you think we'd magically create nuclear weapons from nothing to reciprocate an attack should one come? Or borrow some from one of our neighbors? |
| Date | 06:29:17, August 29, 2007 CET | From | God's and the King's Fighters | To | Debating the Aesthetic and pacifist bill 2447 for true pacifism |
| Message | Apparently, we object now to article 5, and not to article 3. Either this proposal has been relocated, or we really did object to the wrong one. If the latter is the case, we apologise humbly and deeply. Anyway, in our concept of honor in battle, we loathe the idea of WMDs destroying fine warriors, but believe that those destroyed by them will surley find their place in the halls of Valhalla. |
| Date | 15:17:48, August 29, 2007 CET | From | Hutorian Anarcho-Communist Party | To | Debating the Aesthetic and pacifist bill 2447 for true pacifism |
| Message | OOC: thank god I'm not the only one having probles with articles switching places, I though I was going nuts. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 137 | |||||
| no | Total Seats: 109 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 5 |
| Random fact: If there are no parties in your nation with seats, feel free to visit the forum and request an early election on the Early Election Requests thread: http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=4362 |
| Random quote: "Those who expect to reap the blessing of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it. " - Thomas Paine |