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Bill: Cabinet Proposal of January 2449
Details
Submitted by[?]: Party for Individualism and Kitties
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 2449
Description[?]:
| Proposing a Cabinet |
Proposals
Article 1
The responsibilites of Head of Government will be conducted by the 
Party for Individualism and Kitties
Article 2
The responsibilites of Science and Technology will be conducted by the Coburan Conservative Party
Article 3
The responsibilites of Food and Agriculture will be conducted by the Liberal Reform Party of Cobura
Article 4
The responsibilites of Environment and Tourism will be conducted by the Liberal Reform Party of Cobura
Article 5
The responsibilites of Trade and Industry will be conducted by the Coburan Conservative Party
Article 6
The responsibilites of Foreign Affairs will be conducted by the Federalist Party
Article 7
The responsibilites of Internal Affairs will be conducted by the Party for Individualism and Kitties
Article 8
The responsibilites of Finance will be conducted by the Liberal Reform Party of Cobura
Article 9
The responsibilites of Defence will be conducted by the Federalist Party
Article 10
The responsibilites of Justice will be conducted by the Party for Individualism and Kitties
Article 11
The responsibilites of Infrastructure and Transport will be conducted by the Federalist Party
Article 12
The responsibilites of Health and Social Services will be conducted by the Coburan Conservative Party
Article 13
The responsibilites of Education and Culture will be conducted by the Party for Individualism and Kitties
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 18:32:56, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Democratic Labour Party of Cobura | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | We oppose this far-right wing cabinet |
| Date | 18:33:11, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Coburan Reform Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | This government will have a one seat majority, Thats a little dangerous don't you think? |
| Date | 18:39:47, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Coburan Conservative Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | Far right? Hardly. PFI would never let authoritarian voting go through easily, FP and myself are traditional moderate conservatives and the RP hold a unique centre ground. Slightly right wing, but only compared to your communist ways. As for the one seat majority, there is very little time until the next election. Providing a functioning government exists until then, it will be fine and an improvement on what already exists. |
| Date | 18:42:25, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Democratic Labour Party of Cobura | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | This is an illiberal government, which will be dominated by right wingers that the people of Cobura do not want, they want social democracy and social justice, not cuts in services which this coalition will introduce, and not the restrictive policies that the CCP want to impose on the Coburans, |
| Date | 18:50:41, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Party for Individualism and Kitties | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | and because people in Coburans want so you do not have a majority? Strange don't you think? This government is centre-right and liberal. You can't just accuse everything being right of you "bad" for Cobura. |
| Date | 18:52:28, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Coburan Conservative Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | I'd say the majority we are able to produce says otherwise as to your point about what the people want. Perhaps when you are not a party polling so lowly, you can afford to make statements like that. Otherwise, we only seek true social justice, and allowing success to be truly offered and rewarded. We are hardly the fascists you portray either, we only seek to look after those who believe in a moral standard to their lives, which you, a government supposedly all about the entirety of sociey, fails to look after. I believe you have a stronger stance on animal right to life than human right to life, in actual fact? Amazing. |
| Date | 19:00:29, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Democratic Labour Party of Cobura | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | I believe in rights for all, you just believe in rights for the rich and those with your twisted view of "morals" |
| Date | 19:00:31, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Coburan Reform Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | "we only seek to look after those who believe in a moral standard to their lives" Some moral standard, legalising drugs! Which this party voted against! The PfI and are the opposite to you in regards to stance on morality, So don't preach CCP because you have sold out by going into government with the RP and PfI |
| Date | 19:06:25, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Party for Individualism and Kitties | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | we are close on economic issues. FP also is more conservative, so it is a balanced government concerning that. And i believ in freedom for all. I also allow the poor to buy drugs or weapons or whatever they want not just the rich. Again i demand an example for your statement DLP. |
| Date | 19:06:40, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Coburan Reform Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | Can't answer that can you CCP? |
| Date | 19:09:06, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Coburan Reform Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | Yes PfI, You allow the poor to buy drugs but not a telephone! |
| Date | 19:11:49, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Coburan Conservative Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | On the matter of things unanswered: "I believe in rights for all, you just believe in rights for the rich and those with your twisted view of "morals"" Our differences on morality will be solved democratically, we have hardly sold out, we will continue to support the safeguarding of moral fibre no matter who we are in power with. Just because PFI will not vote for whatever we want does not mean we have sold out, it means we are establishing limits to our coalition. We are fortunate, because we realise the value of government over arguments that would exist regardless. Our closeness on economic issues and general civil liberties give us a common ground we can definitely work from. Conservative does not mean fascist, and you are flashing your ignorance in saying that it does. |
| Date | 19:12:04, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Party for Individualism and Kitties | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | if they do not buy drugs they will have the money to pay the regulated(!) prices for a phone. |
| Date | 19:22:23, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Coburan Reform Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | What if they choose to but both and then you can't blame them for buying the drugs as YOU legalised them! |
| Date | 19:24:02, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Coburan Conservative Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | Well no, I don't support it, but I think that was the entire point of PFIs agenda over liberalising such things... |
| Date | 19:26:49, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Coburan Reform Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | Then why did you go into cabinet with them then? |
| Date | 19:28:04, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Party for Individualism and Kitties | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | they have to decide. People have to live their lives by themselves. I can't always help them, only because they spent all their money on drugs... |
| Date | 19:31:24, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Party for Individualism and Kitties | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | How often do i have to repeat myself. Coalition do NOT need to have the samme ideas on every issues!! |
| Date | 19:31:51, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Coburan Reform Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | Maybe they wouldn't have spent all their money on drugs if you hadn't legalised them? |
| Date | 19:33:45, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Party for Individualism and Kitties | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | but if they can afford let them have their fun with the drugs. I can't completely control their lives. |
| Date | 19:35:45, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Coburan Reform Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | You don't want to control it at all, Doesn't your party stand for the absolute freedom of everyone? Drugs ruin society. |
| Date | 19:37:09, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Party for Individualism and Kitties | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | But eveyone shall be FREE(!!!!!) to do what he thinks is best for him. |
| Date | 19:40:01, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Coburan Reform Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | Except go on strike? |
| Date | 19:41:24, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Party for Individualism and Kitties | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | that would harm the freedom of a person that had a car accident and needs a doctor immediately. |
| Date | 19:44:28, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Coburan Reform Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | "Absolute Freedom" You are in a bit of a dilemma aren't you PfI |
| Date | 19:46:50, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Party for Individualism and Kitties | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | eehm, no. |
| Date | 19:47:01, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Coburan Reform Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | Unless the PfI changes it's description I urge the people of Cobura not to vote for someone who can't get their positions right! |
| Date | 19:47:23, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Party for Individualism and Kitties | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | the right to live means the absolute freedom. |
| Date | 19:48:36, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Coburan Reform Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | Oh so I suppose it's okay for a person not to own drugs or a gun then as long as they live then PfI, |
| Date | 19:50:15, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Party for Individualism and Kitties | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | no the rest is bonus. But life is the basis for every freedom. |
| Date | 19:51:54, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Party for Individualism and Kitties | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | you like my slogan now? |
| Date | 19:55:14, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Coburan Reform Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | But it's okay for people to go mad on drugs and kill themselves and others? |
| Date | 19:57:28, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Coburan Reform Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | Oh and for nut cases to buy guns and kill others, Surely striking ambulance workers won't kill as many as these and if they do it will be in directly! |
| Date | 19:59:04, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Party for Individualism and Kitties | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | if someone takes drugs and dies of it, it is completely his fault. If a man owning a gun kills another it is murder and will be punished. |
| Date | 20:01:09, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Coburan Reform Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | But it is a by product of the right to own guns and buy drugs isn't it, So don't complain about the by product of strikes because the by-products of guns and drugs are much, MUCH worse |
| Date | 20:03:38, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Coburan Reform Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | Oh and by changing your motto you are proving that you are a flip flopper who cannot get their positions right. |
| Date | 20:13:16, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Party for Individualism and Kitties | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | 1) Yes it is a product of allowing people to be free(!). But this people get punsihed if they kill someone, not so the strikers. They can kill people wothout having any consequences. 2) My slogan was just to show how ridiculous your attempts to undermine my credibility. |
| Date | 20:14:59, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Coburan Reform Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | Isn't that a product of being free? |
| Date | 20:16:42, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Party for Individualism and Kitties | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | what exactly? |
| Date | 20:17:31, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Coburan Reform Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | Strikers don't kill people, People on drugs and people with guns do |
| Date | 20:20:28, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Party for Individualism and Kitties | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | and are punished! Strikers also kill people and are not punished |
| Date | 20:23:12, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Coburan Reform Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | Also my attempts to undermine your credibility weren't ridiculous, You have fooled the Coburan people into thinking that you stand for the ABSOLUTE freedom of everybody when you oppose the Ambulance workers right to strike, Or the Police officers right to strike, Or the fireman's right to strike and so on |
| Date | 20:24:34, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Party for Individualism and Kitties | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | i have voted against it from the beginning and have never flip-flopped. So i do not know how i fooled anybody. I always stood behind what i was doing. |
| Date | 20:24:35, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Party for Individualism and Kitties | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | i have voted against it from the beginning and have never flip-flopped. So i do not know how i fooled anybody. I always stood behind everythini was doing. |
| Date | 20:26:10, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Coburan Reform Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | Strikers don't kill people! If it is anyones fault that people are killed it's the governments fault for paying them to little or treating them with disrespect, You give lots of respect to people who want to buy drugs, or to Psychopaths who want to buy a gun, But not to the people who drive the ambulances or keep the streets safe! |
| Date | 20:26:49, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Coburan Reform Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | "ABSOLUTE FREEDOM" You fooled some people. |
| Date | 20:27:10, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Party for Individualism and Kitties | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | They MAY strike, just have to ensure a minimal service. |
| Date | 20:27:47, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Coburan Reform Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | Without pay! |
| Date | 20:29:19, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Coburan Reform Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | That makes the entire strike pointless! |
| Date | 20:29:57, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Party for Individualism and Kitties | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | who exactly did i fool? I did everything for civil liberties and rights. Only because i do not allow some workers, that are important for the public's freedom, to strike however and whenever they want, i haven't thrown all my priniciples away. |
| Date | 20:30:27, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Party for Individualism and Kitties | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | they are paid, just not too good. |
| Date | 20:31:53, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Coburan Reform Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | "that are important for the public's freedom" How are police officers important for freedom? |
| Date | 20:32:09, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Party for Individualism and Kitties | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | By that i do not mean they shall not be paid good. |
| Date | 20:32:34, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Party for Individualism and Kitties | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | they save people from being beaten up and being killed. |
| Date | 20:34:49, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Coburan Reform Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | Yes and then they are treated with disrespect by the government and cannot go on strike, And if they can then the strike is meaningless ABSOLUTE freedom, Think about that PfI |
| Date | 20:37:54, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Party for Individualism and Kitties | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | Hell, they can go on strike! And i won't think about anything. ABSOLUTE absolute freedom would mean minimal freedom for another. I give the maximum of freedom that is possible! |
| Date | 20:41:56, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Coburan Reform Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | Then change your parties description! |
| Date | 20:44:54, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Coburan Reform Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | "I give the maximum of freedom that is possible!" Is the workers right to strike not an important freedom? |
| Date | 20:46:06, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Coburan Reform Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | All workers have the right to strike. Commonwealth of Rutania Kundrati Union Republic of Endralon Darnussian Democratic Republic Axis Mundi Likatonian Res Publica Valruzian Federation Dull Republic of Gaduridos Republic of Aldegar Socialist Commonwealth of New Endralon Selucian Empire Cildanian Republic United Majatran Republic of Socialist Al'Badara Grand Duchy of Keymon United Majatran Republic of Kafuristan Federal Republic of Solentia United Provinces of Zardugal Brmék’oék Nrzipntakmojad Realm of Pontesi Sixth Jewish Homeland of Beiteynu Democratic People's Republic of Kazulia Federated Cities of Pan-Sekowo |
| Date | 20:53:07, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Party for Individualism and Kitties | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | 1) I won't change anything. Every half-way clever man will know that freedom ends in interfering with another one's freedom. 2)All workers have the right to strike but certain categories of workers regarded as critical to society have to ensure a minimal service. Free Republic of Dorvik Democratic Republic of Aloria Ecotopian Republic of Kirlawa República Federal de Davostan Democratic Republic of Ikradon Gerajan Republic of Malivia Most Royal and Serene Kingdom of Hutori United Tribes of Tukarali Federal Republic of Kalistan Republica Baltusia République Democratique de Saridan Federación Española de Mordusia Confédération des Deux Kanjors République populaire d'Alduria State of Indrala Trigunskaya Sovetskogo Soyuza Republic of Egelion Repubblica Istaliana Republic of Cobura Independent Wantuni Republic United Jakania Dual Monarchy of Hulstria & Gao-Soto |
| Date | 20:55:49, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Party for Individualism and Kitties | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | i won't tell who has more nations now. Everyone shall count for themselves and make up their own opinion. |
| Date | 20:59:17, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Coburan Reform Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | Oh did I mention that Deltaria is on my list, I edited out because I thought you would point it out, But even fascists believe in a persons right to strike, That means that 23 nations believe in all workers right to strike, Whereas only 22 believe in the current law Oh and how does allowing ambulance workers to strike infringe on civil liberties? You toss the word freedom around like it were a football. |
| Date | 21:00:18, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Coburan Reform Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | Oh sorry thats 22 to 21 |
| Date | 21:43:20, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Party for Individualism and Kitties | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | 1) it's 22:22 if you add deltaria to you rlist 2) A person who had an accident on the streets can't be brought to a hospital, because ambulance-drivers are striking and doctors are striking. So he is not FREE to continue his life! |
| Date | 22:35:19, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Coburan Reform Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | A person who uses drugs and dies from them is not FREE to continue their life, A person who is killed by guns by a psychopath is not FREE to continue their life! |
| Date | 22:42:57, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Party for Individualism and Kitties | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | drugs=own fault gun=murder How often do i have to repeat this??!! |
| Date | 22:50:22, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Coburan Reform Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | Yeah well they became a lot easier under your new laws! |
| Date | 23:23:20, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Party for Individualism and Kitties | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | thank you |
| Date | 23:35:41, September 01, 2007 CET | From | Revolucia Partio de Koburo | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | CRP is still going on about drugs? Good grief. Drugs need to be legalised. Even the police will admit as much. |
| Date | 00:44:50, September 02, 2007 CET | From | Revolucia Partio de Koburo | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | You know, reading CRP's arguments is like an encouragement to suicide. Now I need some drugs. |
| Date | 12:28:11, September 02, 2007 CET | From | Coburan Reform Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | No, I am defending a workers right to strike! |
| Date | 12:29:43, September 02, 2007 CET | From | Party for Individualism and Kitties | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | No, you are simply doing bad attempts to attack my credibility. |
| Date | 14:48:16, September 02, 2007 CET | From | Coburan Reform Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | You support a maniacs right to buy a gun but not a police officers right to strike, What credibility? |
| Date | 14:51:15, September 02, 2007 CET | From | Party for Individualism and Kitties | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | even RPC thinks your arguments are ridiculous. Someone who isn't involved in the discussion... |
| Date | 17:33:25, September 02, 2007 CET | From | Revolucia Partio de Koburo | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | Why does CRP assume that everyone who buys a gun is a maniac? That's a bit prejudice. |
| Date | 19:25:46, September 02, 2007 CET | From | Coburan Reform Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | You don't hunt with an AK-47 |
| Date | 19:46:41, September 02, 2007 CET | From | Party for Individualism and Kitties | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | most people have weapons for their fun or perhaps to be able to defend themselves in emergencies. But not to shoot their neighbour down... |
| Date | 20:52:42, September 02, 2007 CET | From | Revolucia Partio de Koburo | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2449 |
| Message | I never suggested you should hunt with an AK47. Again, you are arguing against an imaginary viewpoint. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 251 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 222 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 27 |
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