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Bill: Media content
Details
Submitted by[?]: Bicky Forever - MSCC
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 2456
Description[?]:
| BF proposes the following bill. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy regarding regulation of media content.
Old value:: There are no content regulations; the media may publish anything, even proven falsehoods.
Current: There are laws against the publication of false information; everything else may be published freely.
Proposed: There are laws against the publication of false information and hate speech.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 20:00:44, September 09, 2007 CET | From |  Ikradonian Interest | To | Debating the Media content |
| Message | Ikradon doesn't require a mind police squadron, freedom of speech all the way. |
| Date | 21:18:20, September 09, 2007 CET | From | Red Dawn | To | Debating the Media content |
| Message | This is nothing but the beginning of a winding road to censorship and totalitarianism. Oppose! |
| Date | 16:41:32, September 10, 2007 CET | From | Ikradonian Faith Party | To | Debating the Media content |
| Message | We support. |
| Date | 22:03:39, September 10, 2007 CET | From | Yellow Party | To | Debating the Media content |
| Message | Support, as we believe that while free media and fair coverage is vital to a perfect nation, things like slander and hateful lies are destructive and can even corrupt such a nation. |
| Date | 12:49:59, September 11, 2007 CET | From | Ikradonian Interest | To | Debating the Media content |
| Message | That's the price democracy asks for free speech YP, on the other hand you got censorship. The choice is up to you. |
| Date | 18:59:54, September 11, 2007 CET | From | Yellow Party | To | Debating the Media content |
| Message | Our great democracy pays no price. The private citizens of this great nation-state will pay the price of this law. Those who are falsely accused by a some media companies who just want to get a story rushed out into the news cycle before someone else does. Media who won't care if they incorrectly label innocents as murderers, adulterers, or thieves. I am not suggesting censorship, Mr.Representative. I am suggesting truth, without which a good democracy cannot survive. Free speech is defined as the right to express any opinion in public without censorship or restraint by the government. Presenting false information is not an opinion- it is a disruption of the truth. So I ask you II, will you let the truth rest in the hands of an overpowering financially-driven media, or in the hands of evidence, truth, and justice? |
| Date | 19:18:39, September 11, 2007 CET | From | Yellow Party | To | Debating the Media content |
| Message | We apologize, a bit of mistyping there, the last sentence of our 18:59:54 statement should read: So I ask you II, will you let the truth rest in the hands of an overpowering financially-driven media, or in the hands of evidence, reality, and justice? |
| Date | 19:21:01, September 11, 2007 CET | From | Ikradonian Interest | To | Debating the Media content |
| Message | Freedom of speech is ii's pick, yp's sophostic fears are amusing us though. |
| Date | 19:23:51, September 11, 2007 CET | From | Bicky Forever - MSCC | To | Debating the Media content |
| Message | Believe me, II will not choose your second alternative! |
| Date | 19:24:21, September 11, 2007 CET | From | Ikradonian Interest | To | Debating the Media content |
| Message | make that sophistic :( |
| Date | 19:39:32, September 11, 2007 CET | From | Yellow Party | To | Debating the Media content |
| Message | Sophistic? Are you Greek? I didn't believe you possessed such a comprehensive vocabulary. At any rate, there is no fear involved. At least not for the Yellow party. Real Ikradonians are accused of things that aren't true by the media all of the time. It is hurtful and it is petty and it is the worse type of accusation. "I read it in the paper, it must be true.". But you obviously know all of this because you said you want freedom of speech, and this proposed bill defiantly strengthens freedom of speech. Lets pass this bill. Free speech n. The right to express any <<opinion>> in public without censorship or restraint by the government. |
| Date | 20:19:37, September 11, 2007 CET | From | Ikradonian Interest | To | Debating the Media content |
| Message | ii would actually like that people are able to express any opinion in any possible way, so also by means of publication. (publication stretches further then your capitalist interpretation of media, hopefully everybody's opinion equals the truth). |
| Date | 00:37:43, September 12, 2007 CET | From | Yellow Party | To | Debating the Media content |
| Message | Thats fine II, as they should be able to express any opinion- through text, video, radio, anything. This isn't the point though. The proposed change would make it illegal to, through media (text, audio, video, etc.) publish a proven falsehood. The Ikradonian people deserve the truth, not lies, and if this law stays the way it is, lies can continue to be spread to other people through the media. Our party welcomes freedom of opinion, and also freedom of truthful interpretation. Our party does not welcome manufactured lies that are distributed to the public. |
| Date | 00:54:40, September 12, 2007 CET | From | Ikradonian Interest | To | Debating the Media content |
| Message | Seriously, if my opinion is that the holocaust never happened I should be able to write and publish my findings. I shouldn't get fines, be arrested or thrown in jail for expressing what I think (I should be disrespected though for not telling the 'truth'). Anyway, any society that will give up a little liberty to gain a little security, deserves neither. |
| Date | 02:51:14, September 12, 2007 CET | From | Yellow Party | To | Debating the Media content |
| Message | That opinion hurts no one. Your holocaust example is a truthful interpretation as you may consider that particular event in history something other than a holocaust. I'm talking about personal slander against individuals. Ikradonians should be able to sue for slander if some media accuses them of a charge they are innocent of. They can't do that right now and this new bill will allow that. I do not consider slander a component of liberty Mr.Representative. Lets get this bill voted on. |
| Date | 11:56:34, September 12, 2007 CET | From | Ikradonian Interest | To | Debating the Media content |
| Message | Fact of the matter is that I won't be able to publish it without getting police running after me, nor will other individuals be able to do in other cases. The reasoning yp handles here is covered by another bill: Current law ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Libel laws. Individuals may sue over falsehoods printed on them. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes | Total Seats: 112 | ||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 157 | ||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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