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Bill: Action- National Reforms September Proposal- Education and Child Welfare
Details
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: November 2454
Description[?]:
| The Current Liberal Co-alition government drives our once proud nation towards anarchism and oblivion, They deregulate and place ever more of the power over the nation into the hands of foreign buisnessmen and governments. The constitution claims that the president has the duty to protect our Independance, yet this pretender to the throne of power stands idle as his compratriots in the Imperial Egoists remove the final walls between our liberty and absolute financal oppression. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- EDUCATION ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Nations future stands idle for the sake of the industrialists pockets. Without an education we are producing a workforce which has not the potential to better itself, Without education the majority wont have the skills needed to excell in more than whatever field they are forced into as child labourers. They wont have the knowledge of history, politics or economics to challenge the ruling parties and as such Kent assures his grasp of power. Limit someones education and you limit their Freedom. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy regarding child benefit.
Old value:: The state does not provide child benefit.
Current: The state guarantees child benefit to both low-income families and large families.
Proposed: The state guarantees child benefit to all families.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning child labour.
Old value:: Child labour is allowed, but with additional regulations to those of adult labourers.
Current: Child labour is allowed, but with additional regulations to those of adult labourers.
Proposed: Child labour is forbidden.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Education for children under adult age.
Old value:: Education is entirely voluntary.
Current: Education is compulsory, but home schooling is permitted.
Proposed: Education is compulsory and has to happen at school.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The education system.
Old value:: Education is entirely private and schools run on a for-profit basis.
Current: There is a free public education system and a small number of private schools, which are heavily regulated to ensure they teach adequate skills and information.
Proposed: There is a free public education system and a small number of private schools, which are heavily regulated to ensure they teach adequate skills and information.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change Singing the national anthem in schools.
Old value:: Children are never made to sing the national anthem.
Current: Children are made to sing the national anthem at the commencement of school each day.
Proposed: Children are made to sing the national anthem at the commencement of school each day.
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change The teacher's right to discipline children.
Old value:: Discipline levels are set by schools.
Current: Discipline levels are set by local governments.
Proposed: Teachers are forbidden from striking children and may only use non-contact discipline (detention, expulsion etc).
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 07:17:45, September 11, 2007 CET | From |  Imperial Cildanian Egoists | To | Debating the Action- National Reforms September Proposal- Education and Child Welfare |
| Message | Capitalism *is* freedom from oppression. In a true capitalist society, worth is determined by mutual consent. Your labor is worth what you are willing to sell it for, and the employer is willing to pay for it. The consent of both parties is required for the transaction to occur. If the worker believes his work is worth more than his compensation, he is free to seek a better price for the same labor, or to learn the skills of more valuable labor. If the worker cannot find a better price, the only reaction possible to a rational individual is to admit that he overestimated the value of his work. If the worker has reached the theoretical limit of his personal abilities, and the level of compensation for which he can barter at that time is still less than he believes his labor is worth, then he is not oppressed: nay, he possesses the desires of the oppressor himself! In seeking to take more than the value of his work in compensation for that work, the worker declares that *he* deserves more than his fair share, and by extension argues that someone higher in the chain of productivity should accept less than the value of his work, so that the parasite rise above the station he has earned, by tearing down those, who through their superior ability and more valuable contribution, have *earned* their higher place. |
| Date | 07:20:31, September 11, 2007 CET | From | Imperial Cildanian Egoists | To | Debating the Action- National Reforms September Proposal- Education and Child Welfare |
| Message | Your rhetoric is disgusting. This nation has not eliminated education. It has freed the people to determine for themselves what education they wish to pursue, rather than ramming state-sanctioned Educational Plans down their throats in the spirit of manipulating them into adopting whatever ideology the current Administration is extolling. |
| Date | 07:28:02, September 11, 2007 CET | From | Action | To | Debating the Action- National Reforms September Proposal- Education and Child Welfare |
| Message | What is Freedom in your opinion? Freedom for the rich, those chosen by birth and circumstance rather than intelligence and skill to have the right to a better education? Under the current system their are no controls over the quality of the education and as such only those who can afford, only those born to privilage can better themselves. Those from the lowest economic brackets are forced into child labour to support their families or pay for what little education they manage to scrape out of the private schools which have no government controls over what they charge for their services. |
| Date | 07:31:43, September 11, 2007 CET | From | Marxist-Leninist Happiness Front | To | Debating the Action- National Reforms September Proposal- Education and Child Welfare |
| Message | A good set of proposals. We disagree with article 5. We'd prefer for schools to set what they consider the needed discipline level. Nix that and stuff it in alternate proposal and we'd be comfortable supporting this. |
| Date | 07:47:56, September 11, 2007 CET | From | Action | To | Debating the Action- National Reforms September Proposal- Education and Child Welfare |
| Message | Furthermore, 'right-honourable' Mr. d'Anconia You lead a party laughingly named Cildanian, and yet it seems you serve the foreign investors more firmly than you do your fellow patriots, How can you claim to be doing your constitutional duty to serve your nation, under the oath of a Chancellor and parlimantrian and yet event Cildanian financers and speculators struggle to gain economic advantage, or even the slightest sucess due to firm-hand of international Finance. By what rights do you claim to stand for the interests of Cildanian? Reactionism is rife and the Red cloud looms heavy over our nation and grows stronger still under your leadership. The further you take this nation into the hands of Internation Finance the more to open the doors to Red Revolt.l In this climate of excess capitalism many small buisnessmen and office worker has turned to the poltical views of his 'comrade' on the factory floor. Not one but two marxist parties have thrived, and continue to do so under the guise of communism. Should we fall back and allow the unwashed masses of Internation Socialism sweep across our fine nation? Decades ago this question would have been inconceivable, The leaders and people of the nation would have gathered into a united front against the Red Tide. But now sensible men are looking towards their flags and promises with less than derision! Honest men who have worked their entire lives for what they might scrape together and considering if only for a moment that the nation but be better served by Communism! Only for a moment yes, but is that not bad enough? Senior members of my own party have approached the view that a temporary alliance with the reds may be brought about with nessity due to the great failings of Liberalism in keeping our nation free from the domination Finance. We support the free market but not to this extent, Not to the extent that the backs of Cildarian buisness are broken and Cildarian buisness stand no chance against large multination foreign chains, And those that do, More of their profits go overseas than into our own economy. You have gone to far, deregulated too much and We will no longer Suffer your rule. |
| Date | 08:47:28, September 11, 2007 CET | From | Imperial Cildanian Egoists | To | Debating the Action- National Reforms September Proposal- Education and Child Welfare |
| Message | Still you prattle of the foreign investors. We find it sad that you have so little faith in the strength of Cildanian Industry as to assume it is the foreigner who takes advantage of us. Our economy is strong, and growing stronger. Corporations flock to base themselves in our nation, where they employ our people and become part of the fabric of our society, and it is we who occupy the position of the strong. The freedom of trade which we embrace has not enabled the foreign to dominate the Cildanian, it has enabled the Cildanian to prove it's superiority to the foreign, and so expand our dominance. You speak of the red cloud strengthening under our rule. The red cloud hung heavy over this land, with only the Justice League of Cildania standing against it. In the last election, after months in which the Forces of Liberty shone light on the depravity of collectivism, the red cloud was swept from the seat of power, resoundingly thrust back, the citizens of Cildania *demanding* that the Individualist reforms which had been blocked be enacted. Now, in the name of Cildania, *you* seek to block the reforms which our citizens have fought so hard for, and to cloak your treason in words of patriotism. Shame! To abandon principle and side with the collectivist, to take the side of the parasite for political gain, this is among the most depraved actions that free men can take. As to your simpering cry of "excess capitalism", such a thing is a contradiction in terms. One cannot have an excess of virtue, and there is no greater economic virtue than Capitalism. |
| Date | 17:21:52, September 11, 2007 CET | From | Action | To | Debating the Action- National Reforms September Proposal- Education and Child Welfare |
| Message | Cildania adopts of the policies of a microstate, The influx of foreign companies and their control over Cildanian Industry does little to aid our nation, under foreign control our workers labour to produce goods which are immediatly sold in foreign markets for far more than the workers themselves could afford and a high percentage of those profits heads straight into the coffers of foreign investors, industrialist and governments. In your mind what is Freedom or Liberty? Is a free press to you one which is run in the interest of journalism, one in which many small independantly owned newspapers write against each other to strive to improve the quality of their product, or your vision of freedom one where a wealthy buisnessman can corner the market and force the press to print only those opinions which agree with his own and has to resort to sensaltionalism and sexual depravity to sell his papers as no matter how far journalist standards fall the papers will still sell as its only source of information? Absolute deregulation is the abolishion of freedom. And as to your claim, Action has never and will never side with International Socialist organisations, but when a hound finds himself in an alley surrounded by bickering dogs, he will go for the largest mutt first. |
| Date | 19:54:52, September 11, 2007 CET | From | Justice League of Cildania | To | Debating the Action- National Reforms September Proposal- Education and Child Welfare |
| Message | Ah the lamentations of yet another xenophobic nazi party. Cildania gets one every few years, and they all fade away once they've expended all of their hot air. Economics 101. Foreign companies create jobs and salaries that otherwise would never have existed in Cildania. Regardless of what or where they sell what we produce, more supply equals lower prices equals more buying power for everyone, even the poorest of the poor. Every economic power on Terra owes its beginnings to foreign investment, and the Cildanian voters show that they know: the freer the markets and more open the trade borders, the more wealth and prosperity for all. One thing you do share with your socialist bedfellows, this notion of zero sum dog-eat-dog competition and value, was thrown out as false theory over a hundred years ago. Perhaps if your kind didn't cling to archaic beliefs and zealotry despite all the mounting reality to the contrary, this world would be closer to the free and prosperous world that you imagine. |
| Date | 20:03:35, September 11, 2007 CET | From | Action | To | Debating the Action- National Reforms September Proposal- Education and Child Welfare |
| Message | We rebuke such claims, Action stands for Cildania, the freedom of the Cildanian people and the Socialist principle. Do we value prosperority at the expence of our Freedoms? our saftey? or the welfare of our People? Do you really beleave that currency is worth more than your nation? This bill stands for the rights of all childern to a fair and equal education and yet the party which claims to stand for such values cares only for the rights of the rich, Who only care for linning their pockets off the de-humanisation of the nations youth, the nations future. False king Kent sitting astride in his silver castle while hirings count his loot, Content to ruin the education of the next generation as his schooling happened long in the Past, Great and Mighty Justice Leage, keeping to population under control by restricting information and blocking the doors to education and self-improvement, wheres the justice in that? The justice of Finance. -Alvine Hinzelmann, Action candidate for Education. |
| Date | 20:29:26, September 11, 2007 CET | From | Justice League of Cildania | To | Debating the Action- National Reforms September Proposal- Education and Child Welfare |
| Message | Na-zi, National Socialist, and that was a whole hilarious mouthful of blowhard lies and false claims. You left out that we're actually alien body-snatchers trying to dupe everybody until we can send them back to our planet as slaves. |
| Date | 20:50:41, September 11, 2007 CET | From | Imperial Cildanian Egoists | To | Debating the Action- National Reforms September Proposal- Education and Child Welfare |
| Message | Public education. Words that should never be placed together. When the government runs a system of compulsory public education, teachers are changed from educators to census takers, principals are changed from administrators to wardens. In compulsory public education, forgive my crass wording, provides funding to schools based on the number of butts they keep in the seats. In furtherance of this goal, standards spiral downward, and teachers are discouraged from failing students who have earned failing grades. This activity is covered in a rhetoric which declares that it is *effort* which is really important, not achievement, and that simply showing up and turning in your work, regardless of its quality, is sufficient for a decent grade. This masks the true motive, which is simply to avoid doing anything which deters butts from remaining in seats. Even if the rhetorical stance were true, compulsory public schools fail to live up to it, requiring less and less effort in response to less willingness to put out that effort. After all, why put out effort if your evaluation won't even be based on the quality of your work, and the degenerate state of public education has led to a high school diploma being useful only as toilet paper. Even if the rhetorical stance was true *and* being lived up to, it is a reprehensible stance. To reward effort over quality, to enable the inferior at the expense of marginalizing the superior, is to go against everything education is supposed to be about. Education is supposed to provide individuals with the tools to reach their highest possible level of achievement, not to drag down the level of all curriculum to the understanding of the basest dolt: this emphasis on the feelings and comfort of the dregs of society results in a system which discourages the intelligent from learning, and provides "school work" which requires no effort on their part. The end result of this travesty is that upon completion of compulsory public schooling, the lesser individuals are no greater than they would have been in the absence of state "education", and those individuals who entered schooling with superior potential have had that potential attacked and degraded for years. This is to the ultimate detriment of all society, as it is the superior individuals who *create* the jobs which the lesser occupy, who *make* the money which is the lifeblood of the nation. In a system of compulsory public education, we poison the well at it's very source. |
| Date | 00:41:53, September 12, 2007 CET | From | Action | To | Debating the Action- National Reforms September Proposal- Education and Child Welfare |
| Message | Can you not look past a name, Yest the word nazi translates as National Socialist, but that its not what they stood forward. The Nazis were neither national socialist nor fascist, They named themselves for values which they ignored or corrupted. Dictatorships in past times has called themselves democratic states and yet they have not fooled you into beleiving that Democracies and Dictatorships are one and the same and yet you still resort to the insult of misinturpretation and place Action and all National Socialists with those who deluded themselves into beleiving they had any right to that name. -Tombs |
| Date | 02:37:14, September 12, 2007 CET | From | Imperial Cildanian Egoists | To | Debating the Action- National Reforms September Proposal- Education and Child Welfare |
| Message | Democracies and Dictatorships are one and the same. In dictatorship the minority strips away the liberty of the majority, and in democracy the majority strips away the liberty of the minority. Both forms of government are the enemy of the Individual, but can be salvaged if they are philosophically redeemed. |
| Date | 03:25:16, September 12, 2007 CET | From | Action | To | Debating the Action- National Reforms September Proposal- Education and Child Welfare |
| Message | And yet this nation under your driving hand is called a republic, and the same is true for that, Thinf of all the democratic socialist republics which we have seen risen and fall, not one republician in nature, but all in name. Is it that you beleive Cildania identicle to such states in its current position? or atleast that the differences are too small to be named? Action, represents the Nation, and the Nations good before that of others, Action is socialist in that it supports the welfare state, Corpoist economics and a well greased National institutions. Action stands to end the inefficent government system of universal talk in which nothing can be done, Where real power lies in the hands Finance, not in the hands of those chosen by the people. Democracy need not deliver the minority into discomfort, Action stands for Unity, A United Nation abolsihes outdated concepts such as class, race and religion, All it second to Nationhood, which is freely gained by birth, marriage and dedication to the Nation. The National-Socialists of german tounge have abandoned the Fascist and Socialist principles, They have distorted the concept of unity to be one of discrimination, For when they cry out One Race, they mean the one left standing rather than the universal brotherhood of man to which all are born. They call for War, Aggresion and Internation Disharmony, and yet how does war serve the nation? How does the death of a nations countrymen and youth on the altar of aggresion better a nation? Fascism alone can preserve the Peace, because alone it removes the causes of war. The main cause of War is the struggle for markets. Each nation produces more than it can sell at home and so tries to sell its surplus abroad, in cut-throat competition with other nations. Diplomacy, finance, armaments and ultimately War are used as weapons in the struggle for markets. By building a self contained or autarchic system we withdraw from the struggle for markets and so withdraw from the risks of war. This is the answer to the fantastic assertion that Peace and Empire are incompatible. When other nations follow our example there will be nothing left to fight about. It is true that in order to do this the small nations will have to enter economic Federations. It is also true that we must arrange for all nations in one form or another to have access to raw materials. But this is by no means impossible in a world producing more raw materials than it at present consumes. The problems of abundance are not insoluble. This constructive task of Action will be achieved when our doctrine prevails that internationalism and not nationalism means war. Remove the causes of War and Peace will rest on reality. Nazism sides with the Red masses and the banks, both supposed enemies of their regime, in desperate attempts to maintain power and eliminate opposistion. Action supports debate, Without Debate there can be no progress and without progress the Nation Suffers. the nazis beleive that the people exist to support their nation and that those who do not serve the government absolutely are traitors, Action believes that the People of the Nation and the Nation are one and the same and that the traitor is the government which does not serve the Nation, absolutely. Action Policy and Nazism are polar opposites as much as we are to Imperial Egoists or the Mindless fanatics of Marxism. |
| Date | 03:36:20, September 12, 2007 CET | From | Action | To | Debating the Action- National Reforms September Proposal- Education and Child Welfare |
| Message | The debate has moved on from the bill to further politics and so, the bill moves to Vote. Action in name and deed, Never stay the messenger about his duty. |
| Date | 04:05:51, September 12, 2007 CET | From | Imperial Cildanian Egoists | To | Debating the Action- National Reforms September Proposal- Education and Child Welfare |
| Message | The time of the "republic" shall soon come to an end. After seeing the unmitigated string of victories the forces of Individualism have delivered to them, the people of this nation will grant those forces enough power in the next election to amend the Constitution, and the time of Cildanian Empire will have come. |
| Date | 04:19:02, September 12, 2007 CET | From | Action | To | Debating the Action- National Reforms September Proposal- Education and Child Welfare |
| Message | All times turn around in the end. Dont be so sure you'll come out on top. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 31 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 234 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 160 |
| Random fact: In order for a Cabinet bill to pass, more than half of the legislature must vote for it and all of the parties included in the proposed Cabinet must support it. If your nation has a Head of State who is also the Head of Government, then the party controlling this character must also vote for the bill, since the Head of Government is also a member of the Cabinet. If any of these requirements are not met, the bill will not pass. |
| Random quote: "It all came from there." - Lech Walesa (pointing to a TV when a reporter asked him why communism fell) |