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Bill: Civil Preparedness Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Marxist-Leninist Happiness Front
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: November 2454
Description[?]:
Across our continent there is civil strife. Agressive nations. Nations occupying their neighbors. Nations with weapons of mass destruction. Nations with larger militaries than our own. Just because we an island doesn't make us immune. The wars can and eventually will come to our shores. The question is do we provide our citizens with the basic protections they need to weather this storm? |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Civil defence is the government's policy on providing shelters to be used in the event of attacks on major cities, mainly nuclear attacks and bombing.
Old value:: The government builds and maintains a network of shelters across the nation.
Current: The government builds and maintains a network of shelters across the nation.
Proposed: Every public building is required to feature provisions for civil defence and at least 50% of spaces must be allocated to private citizens.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 16:52:58, September 11, 2007 CET | From | Imperial Cildanian Egoists | To | Debating the Civil Preparedness Act |
Message | Paranoia. Rampany paranoia. Either that, or intentional fear-mongering. The best defense consists of having a well developed offense, so that the cost of attacking us becomes prohibitively high. To speak of shelters is to acknowledge defeat, to begin preparing to hide like rats in a hole, before even whispers of war have come to our ears. Rank cowardice. Our military budget has been increased under the Administration of Liberty, we have enlightened policies on the use and research of all manners of weapon, and we have the resolve of true Cildanians. Also, our trade laws are such that it is of no benefit to any nation to attack us, our neutrality in matters of international politics have made us a haven of trade for the wealth of many nations across the ideological spectrum. Even the lowest of robbers does not rob the bank where *his* money is invested. |
Date | 17:08:18, September 11, 2007 CET | From | Action | To | Debating the Civil Preparedness Act |
Message | Spending more on an already adaquade civil defensive, especialy considering our current defense bugets over no more than the slight chance of nuclear holocaust seems rather above the mark, This money would be better spent in rehabiliting the National welfare, education and living standards of the Cildaranian people. Chances are that if a nuclear war did occour then hiding out in the few buildings remaining in government hands after the rash privatisations of recent governments with a couple years supplies of tinned fruit and batteries would help you fare any better than those who went outside as the missiles fell to see what all the fuss was about. -Tombs |
Date | 01:33:00, September 12, 2007 CET | From | Marxist-Leninist Happiness Front | To | Debating the Civil Preparedness Act |
Message | Nuclear annhilation isn't the only threat. Chances are the most likely attack will be conventional. If our nation is bombed is it too much to ask that every citizen have a safe place to go? |
Date | 02:24:20, September 12, 2007 CET | From | Imperial Cildanian Egoists | To | Debating the Civil Preparedness Act |
Message | Every citizen who wants a safe place to go can finance one. Is it too much to ask that the government steal money from the people in order to finance safe places to go? Yes, it is. |
Date | 05:25:26, September 12, 2007 CET | From | Action | To | Debating the Civil Preparedness Act |
Message | It is the duty and purpose of government to protect its nationals. You try this nation as though it were a corporation and her people, disloyal employees nothing good can come from your rule. |
Date | 05:29:11, September 12, 2007 CET | From | Imperial Cildanian Egoists | To | Debating the Civil Preparedness Act |
Message | The greatest good comes from our rule, for the greatest good comes from the aggregate effect of rational individuals acting in their own self interest, and this government gives them unprecedented opportunity to do so. |
Date | 05:34:17, September 12, 2007 CET | From | Action | To | Debating the Civil Preparedness Act |
Message | And what of thoses whose liberties are crushed by the self-interest of others? Is a society more free where you can kill your neigbour and face from consequence, Or is it when you are free to walk down a street without being attacked. Freedom of the individual comes at the great expense of others, Freedom of the Nation, while slightly reduces the liberty of those it serves, Grants the same freedoms to all. |
Date | 05:48:09, September 12, 2007 CET | From | Imperial Cildanian Egoists | To | Debating the Civil Preparedness Act |
Message | Yes, it does grant the same freedom to all. Which is to say the freedom to obey. The freedom to be a slave. The freedom to be an interchangeable cog in the machine of the State. Your tyranny will never be allowed to conquer this nation. |
Date | 03:09:06, September 13, 2007 CET | From | Marxist-Leninist Happiness Front | To | Debating the Civil Preparedness Act |
Message | I thought we were withdrawing from the anti-slavery treaty so people could have the "freedom" to be slaves? |
Date | 03:28:37, September 13, 2007 CET | From | Imperial Cildanian Egoists | To | Debating the Civil Preparedness Act |
Message | The party wished to withdraw from that treaty so that slavery might be enacted as an alternative punishment to life in prison for those so convicted. Well-guarded slaves contracted out as cheap manual labor would be of much greater societal value than the same criminals performing only the limited jobs available inside prisons. |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | |||||
yes | Total Seats: 47 | |||||
no |
Total Seats: 265 | |||||
abstain | Total Seats: 113 |
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