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Bill: New bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Libertad Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 2456
Description[?]:
| It's a bill, OMGesus |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The age at which a person is considered an adult (limited between 12 and 24).
Old value:: 18
Current: 18
Proposed: 16
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 21:17:51, September 13, 2007 CET | From | Libertad Party | To | Debating the New bill |
| Message | So....Thoughts on the matter? |
| Date | 01:21:13, September 14, 2007 CET | From | Stoic Party | To | Debating the New bill |
| Message | I support Article 1 But I would like to hear the reasoning behind Article 2 before I can fully support this bill. |
| Date | 08:38:53, September 14, 2007 CET | From | Liberty Party | To | Debating the New bill |
| Message | Hmm. I've always supported the current age of majority, due to various safety standards, we can't be handing out drivers licenses to kids at 16, they'd have to start practicing at 14, for example. Then again, their are voting and civil right concerns. It is this party's opinion that Zardugali civil liberties extend to the point that one doesn't have to be a legal adult to experience them. Seeing as some boys are still going through/just starting puberty at 16, 18 is a sensible age of majority to ensure the safety of our citizens. As for article 2, this party understands the reasoning behind it, but this would prevent our military from winning a war in the best possible way for Zardugal. These are Zardugalis we're talking about; they're not about to gas innocent citizens. This measure would only put more restrictions on the defense of Zardugal. Reason over law. |
| Date | 12:46:53, September 14, 2007 CET | From | Democratic Trade Unionist Party | To | Debating the New bill |
| Message | While we support Article 1, we don not support Article 2 for the same reason as the Liberty Party |
| Date | 05:56:44, September 15, 2007 CET | From | Liberty Party | To | Debating the New bill |
| Message | Perhaps the Libertad Party will remove Article 2 then proceed to voting, as the general coalescences is that this bill won't pass with Article 2 attached. |
| Date | 15:53:57, September 15, 2007 CET | From | Libertad Party | To | Debating the New bill |
| Message | While we would be willing to rewrite the article pertaining to the age limit, the party is confused as to which article to you are referring to, as you began discussing the chemical weapons policies in article 1. |
| Date | 17:26:38, September 15, 2007 CET | From | Stoic Party | To | Debating the New bill |
| Message | To better clarify, we support the legal age change but not the limit on chemical and biological weapons. OOC: I swear they were reversed when I firsted posted. |
| Date | 17:50:48, September 15, 2007 CET | From | Libertad Party | To | Debating the New bill |
| Message | I can adjust that. Agreed, and I'll move it to vote. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 47 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 187 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 167 |
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