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Bill: Bring Back the Tasers
Details
Submitted by[?]: Liberal Party of Telamon
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 2098
Description[?]:
In times of emergency, totrue should be used |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The use of torture for obtaining information.
Old value:: Torture is never allowed.
Current: Torture is never allowed.
Proposed: Suspects can only be tortured under grave emergencies where the information is vital.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 18:39:14, August 16, 2005 CET | From | Conservative Party of Telamon | To | Debating the Bring Back the Tasers |
Message | Agreed. |
Date | 22:42:57, August 16, 2005 CET | From | Progressive Marxist Party | To | Debating the Bring Back the Tasers |
Message | As happened last time, I oppose this bill. Define grave emergency. Show how torture would be useful when any answers are tainted by the persons stress and willingness to end the torture. |
Date | 02:25:32, August 17, 2005 CET | From | Partiya Nacionalnogo Progressa | To | Debating the Bring Back the Tasers |
Message | No, you will excuse, in my opinion no one intends to ask random witness so that it more rapidly would recall:) The discussion deals with the tortures above the person, who purposely rejects to issue any concrete information. And I think, hardly in this situation it will be wanted to say to it untruth. |
Date | 02:51:21, August 17, 2005 CET | From | Progressive Marxist Party | To | Debating the Bring Back the Tasers |
Message | What if a person is falsely accused of being involved in terrorist operations? What will they say to get the stones off their chest? Look at the Inquisition. |
Date | 06:42:37, August 17, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Party of Telamon | To | Debating the Bring Back the Tasers |
Message | well its better wrongfully accusing someone than letting a terrorist go un captured, and blowing himself up killing 20 people |
Date | 07:33:11, August 17, 2005 CET | From | Federation Under Crazy Killers -- United | To | Debating the Bring Back the Tasers |
Message | no |
Date | 12:17:04, August 17, 2005 CET | From | United Liberal Alliance | To | Debating the Bring Back the Tasers |
Message | We will not support the use of torture in any circumstnces - its use can never be justified |
Date | 18:18:38, August 17, 2005 CET | From | Rationalist Party | To | Debating the Bring Back the Tasers |
Message | It is a barbaric practice that we will never support, it is ineffective and creates a society of fearful drones. No |
Date | 08:23:38, August 18, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Party of Telamon | To | Debating the Bring Back the Tasers |
Message | this isnt in any cirumstance, only extreme circumstances |
Date | 21:02:37, August 19, 2005 CET | From | Progressive Marxist Party | To | Debating the Bring Back the Tasers |
Message | It does not mean that it will not be abused. Anyone can redefine grave emergency. |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | ||||
yes | Total Seats: 119 | ||||
no |
Total Seats: 112 | ||||
abstain | Total Seats: 24 |
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