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Bill: Cabinet Proposal of January 2459

Details

Submitted by[?]: Saiken Renmei

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.

Voting deadline: September 2459

Description[?]:

Proposing a Cabinet

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date19:16:08, September 21, 2007 CET
From帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō)
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2459
MessageBoth CeC and PRP (albeit only after this election for the latter) have less seats than both the DSP and SCP, of which neither of us have a position in this proposal, so therefore we are voting against this.

Date20:16:35, September 21, 2007 CET
FromPan-Sekowan Fascist Front
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2459
MessageAnd after giving you nice seats and all in previous cabinet, you just dumb me like this? "I will never co-operate with the Fascists" you said before I gave you an offer. "Fascists are decent folk", you said after the proposal.

This just prooves that liberals are not to be trusted. They want to destroy our nation.

Date22:19:29, September 21, 2007 CET
FromSaiken Renmei
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2459
MessageThe cooperation between our two parties has been circumstantial, and without any clear ideological relationships. It was born out of the PSFF's necessity to form a stable and efficient government, and we also believed this to be a necessity. But now that the Sekowan voters have clearly expressed their true standing, we see it salutary for our nation to have a more natural cabinet coalition still able to maintain stability.

Date01:29:46, September 22, 2007 CET
From Imperial Pluralism Party
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2459
MessageA major factor in the boringness of Sekowan politics is everyone's willingness to compromise and forget past wrongs in exchange for present benefits. But of what use are silly things like cabinet seats if they won't last even more than one term? And what use is power if it cannot be used against someone or something?

In view of these things, the AUP will be opposing cabinets led by the CFP indefinitely. We have far more in common with the PSFF than the morose liberals that comprise this new power structure. If the CFP is willing to support the current cabinet, then we will support them, but not otherwise.

We don't particularly care if we are on the loosing side of this battle, so long as it is truly a battle. Perhaps the SCP or DSP will be the first to cave in to the deceitful gifts of the CFP and CeC, but some new cabinet will in fact be formed, an it won't include us.

Date02:47:21, September 22, 2007 CET
From帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō)
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2459
MessageWe don't care if not everyone is given lots of seats, just that atleast parties represented are'nt smaller than other parties that are.

Date02:48:24, September 22, 2007 CET
From帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō)
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2459
MessageThough we do like to create unity, and are not against cabinets including everyone, just as long as we get the position we want.


OOC:
That was meant to be part of the above, but I hit return on accident.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
   

Total Seats: 271

no
    

Total Seats: 328

abstain
 

Total Seats: 0


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