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Bill: No religious schools
Details
Submitted by[?]: Secular Humanist Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 2099
Description[?]:
| Education should be the same for everybody. My opinions on the topic are explained in the past debates. http://82.238.75.178:8085/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=13333 http://82.238.75.178:8085/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=13677 http://82.238.75.178:8085/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=13743 |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The governments stance on religious schools.
Old value:: Religious schools are allowed, but are strictly regulated. Only recognised religions may set up religious schools.
Current: Religious schools are not allowed.
Proposed: Religious schools are not allowed.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 22:26:12, August 17, 2005 CET | From | Nationalist Freedom Party | To | Debating the No religious schools |
| Message | I prefer the current law: "Religious schools are allowed, but are strictly regulated. Only recognised religions may set up religious schools." Calmly, I'll explain why: "Only recognised religions may set up religious schools" - This prevents cults from opening up schools and allows the governemnt to shut down illegal religious schools. "Religious schools are allowed, BUT ARE STRICTLY REGULATED" Meaning, the Government STRICTLY REGULATES the schools and in my view they are no threat. I am against this Bill. |
| Date | 13:59:10, August 18, 2005 CET | From | Kanjoran People's Party | To | Debating the No religious schools |
| Message | I'm pondering this...on the one hand the people are fanatics, but they like public schools more than fanatacism. On the other hand, I'm a religious person myself, but I agree with the ideas behind SHP's public school system. |
| Date | 15:35:18, August 18, 2005 CET | From | Secular Humanist Party | To | Debating the No religious schools |
| Message | The idea of "recognised religions" itself is against freedom of worship. There shouldn't be "recognised" religions, but they all should be accepted and equally-treated as long as they do not go against secular law. |
| Date | 15:50:10, August 18, 2005 CET | From | Nationalist Freedom Party | To | Debating the No religious schools |
| Message | KPP, as a member of the World Jewish Congress, how do you feel they would react to you supporting a proposal to ban Jewish schools? |
| Date | 00:23:49, August 19, 2005 CET | From | Kanjoran People's Party | To | Debating the No religious schools |
| Message | darn you NFP for making this personal (jk).......im guessing not so pleased, but its a loose association i have with that organization ill be pondering this one for a while |
| Date | 10:38:32, August 19, 2005 CET | From | Secular Humanist Party | To | Debating the No religious schools |
| Message | We can't say "this religion is good, this is bad", so don't let NFP manipulate your feelings with personal observations. |
| Date | 14:02:39, August 19, 2005 CET | From | Kanjoran People's Party | To | Debating the No religious schools |
| Message | Well, if thats the way you want to look at it, you're saying all religions are bad, right? |
| Date | 15:17:02, August 19, 2005 CET | From | Nationalist Freedom Party | To | Debating the No religious schools |
| Message | Obviously he is. The legislation says "recognised religons" so it doesn't allow cults to set up schools, because cults are not recognised religions. It allows for your Christian, Jewish schools etc. and the schools are "strictly regulated" - so whats the problem? Do you think there is something wrong with the current legislation KPP, honestly? |
| Date | 15:17:50, August 19, 2005 CET | From | Nationalist Freedom Party | To | Debating the No religious schools |
| Message | Oh and yes,m the fact is that SHP is an atheist. He no like religions and he not as pro-civil liberties as you may think. |
| Date | 00:13:10, August 20, 2005 CET | From | Kanjoran People's Party | To | Debating the No religious schools |
| Message | "he not as pro-civil liberties as you may think." - To be fair you did try to pass three laws restricting the rights of homosexuals, so I'm not all too impressed by your civil liberties stance either. |
| Date | 17:05:52, August 20, 2005 CET | From | Nationalist Freedom Party | To | Debating the No religious schools |
| Message | But I'm not the one with secular hummanist in my name. I'm not completely be free liberties. I'm not left-wing. |
| Date | 17:06:33, August 20, 2005 CET | From | Nationalist Freedom Party | To | Debating the No religious schools |
| Message | oh and homosexuals aren't the issue here. Its religious schools, and you won't be worth your salt if you go against this. |
| Date | 22:27:54, August 20, 2005 CET | From | Secular Humanist Party | To | Debating the No religious schools |
| Message | The current law discriminates between religion. This bill will ensure that every kanjorian receive the same education granting equal opportunities and avoiding risks of settarisms and such. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 102 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 337 | |||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 1 |
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