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Bill: Property Rights II
Details
Submitted by[?]: Tuesday Is Coming
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 2098
Description[?]:
| Farmers shall be as secure in their property as any other citizen. They shall be granted the same rights as other citizens, as well as the same responsibilities. Local governments shall no longer be permitted to decide the ownership of farms, nor to redistribute funds to farmers. Subsidies shall be reduced by 50% each year after the passage of this proposal. In the fifth year, all subsidies shall completely removed. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government agricultural and farming subsidies policy.
Old value:: The government allows local governments to craft agricultural subsidy policy.
Current: Agricultural crops which are considered beneficial to the enviroment or to the continued ecological safety of the state are subsidized.
Proposed: The government denies subsidy assistance to farmers.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning farm size.
Old value:: Farm size regulations are determined by local governments.
Current: Farms that grow too large are broken up and the land redistributed.
Proposed: Farm size is not regulated.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 04:46:48, August 18, 2005 CET | From | CNT/AFL | To | Debating the Property Rights II |
| Message | Though we do not actively support subsidy assistance, we cannot vote for a bill that takes power away from local governments and hands it to Port Andalay beaureaucrats. |
| Date | 04:57:07, August 18, 2005 CET | From | Adam Smith Party | To | Debating the Property Rights II |
| Message | What power is being given to anyone in Port Andalay CNT? The power is being removed from all forms of government, not transferred from local to central. |
| Date | 06:10:10, August 18, 2005 CET | From |  Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Property Rights II |
| Message | That was the intent of the bill, to remove it from all forms of government. |
| Date | 06:43:02, August 18, 2005 CET | From | Cooperative Commonwealth Federation | To | Debating the Property Rights II |
| Message | Another pseudo-socialsit power grab by the authoritarian centralizers. |
| Date | 07:25:51, August 18, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Property Rights II |
| Message | A grab for power? What power is being grabbed? |
| Date | 18:20:39, August 18, 2005 CET | From | CNT/AFL | To | Debating the Property Rights II |
| Message | Power from the states, to decide whether they want to subsidize farmers or maintain a land policy. |
| Date | 18:49:39, August 18, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Property Rights II |
| Message | Grab implies that the power goes to the person doing the grabbing. This is giving the power to those who actually own the land. |
| Date | 22:14:46, August 18, 2005 CET | From | Cooperative Commonwealth Federation | To | Debating the Property Rights II |
| Message | .. and perhaps in some cases, taking it away from those who live on the land and must work as tenant farmers. It essentially assigns the power to the people with the most capital by commodifying land. |
| Date | 07:41:35, August 19, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Property Rights II |
| Message | Tenant farmers do not have any power under the current law. Local authorities do. |
| Date | 17:52:56, August 19, 2005 CET | From | CNT/AFL | To | Debating the Property Rights II |
| Message | And under the proposed law, they have even less power, because they are forced back into wage slavery. |
| Date | 21:30:01, August 19, 2005 CET | From | Adam Smith Party | To | Debating the Property Rights II |
| Message | What a complete load of nonsense from the left in this debate. The current law allows the local governbment, not the local tennant farmers association, to define land use. We oppose this, and are accused of making a power grab. GA and CNT, what world do you live in? |
| Date | 23:03:44, August 19, 2005 CET | From | Cooperative Commonwealth Federation | To | Debating the Property Rights II |
| Message | you dislike your rhetoric about authoritarianism when it is used against you? Tenant farmers lose any possible power under this law. Under the old law, a rural majority though their local voting power could set agricultural policy. Now, only those with money may do so. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 239 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 155 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 56 |
| Random fact: Bill descriptions must be in English, or at least include a full English translation. Bill titles may appear in a language that is appropriate to the nation and are not required to be translated into English. |
| Random quote: "What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty and democracy?" - Mahatma Gandhi. |