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Bill: Education standards
Details
Submitted by[?]: National Authoritarian Movement
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2463
Description[?]:
| Since we cannot guarantee the quality of home schooling, we must insist on education in schools. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Education for children under adult age.
Old value:: Education is compulsory, but home schooling is permitted.
Current: Education is compulsory, but home schooling is permitted.
Proposed: Education is compulsory and has to happen at school.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 06:43:49, September 29, 2007 CET | From |  Liberty Party | To | Debating the Education standards |
| Message | "The day this government does not recognize our own citizen's ability to educate thier children is a sad, sad day" ~Liberty Party Spokesman |
| Date | 15:47:22, September 29, 2007 CET | From | National Authoritarian Movement | To | Debating the Education standards |
| Message | The NAM just wants an equal chance for every pupil. We must consider, that unfortunately not every parent has the abilities to teach his child the way it is neccessary in daily life. We cannot give up a single child." |
| Date | 16:34:44, September 29, 2007 CET | From | Ancient and Noble Order of the Cavaliers | To | Debating the Education standards |
| Message | "This is, indeed, a sticky situation. However, I for once, will err on the side of democracy. Public education is a must, but we must not remove the home-schooling option." -Sir Harold Fox, DM |
| Date | 16:44:57, September 29, 2007 CET | From | National Authoritarian Movement | To | Debating the Education standards |
| Message | Homeschooling reduces the abilities of a child, because it will be pressed into the direction the parents want their child to be. State schools offer an equal importance to any subject, so the child can rather decide on its own. |
| Date | 18:05:03, September 29, 2007 CET | From | Libertad Party | To | Debating the Education standards |
| Message | "And yet, your movement refuses to acknowledge the fact that opinions are given in public schooling as well? Even if equal time is given to each subject, a teacher's opinions may still color their teachings in that subject." -Jonathan Ramonas |
| Date | 18:11:33, September 29, 2007 CET | From | National Authoritarian Movement | To | Debating the Education standards |
| Message | ...but the pupil will get teaching in every subject, while nobody can check this for homeschooling. |
| Date | 18:23:41, September 29, 2007 CET | From | Libertad Party | To | Debating the Education standards |
| Message | "But if the teaching casts the subject in a negative light, is it not better to be uninformed than to be a bigot?" |
| Date | 18:38:01, September 29, 2007 CET | From | National Authoritarian Movement | To | Debating the Education standards |
| Message | This does apply to home schooling the same way. It's another question to provide neutral content. |
| Date | 22:43:35, September 29, 2007 CET | From | Libertad Party | To | Debating the Education standards |
| Message | "But how can you guarantee neutral content being taught by teachers?"- Johnathan Ramonas |
| Date | 02:27:22, September 30, 2007 CET | From | National Authoritarian Movement | To | Debating the Education standards |
| Message | Well, nothing will be 100% neutral. But in public schools the lessons are based on roadmap, the pupils use books provided by the government, which are two major facts which offer the maximal degree auf neutrality. No homeschooling will achieve this. The NAM is against pupils which will only have the same profession in the future than their parents already had. We want to offer maximal chances to everybody. |
| Date | 10:06:19, September 30, 2007 CET | From | Liberty Party | To | Debating the Education standards |
| Message | "Ha ha, now you reveal your true intentions. Books provided by the government, that's gonna be completely neutral with the Authoritarians in power, eh? NAM obviously is very ignorant of home schooling, though they can be behind in some subjects, they excel at the subjects that, typically, they choose to follow, subjects that are not explored enough, or not at all in the state system. Children who've being home schooled, in this day and age, turn out far better equipped, with goals in mind and skills to boast in the workforce. Do you really believe that a parent who posses no skill for teaching would want to waste their time seeing their child fall further and further behind? The state provides and excellent education system, but for those parents that feel their child is not suitable for it and can't afford private education, home schooling should always be an option" ~Susan Copper, Shadow Minister for Education and Culture for the Liberty Party |
| Date | 10:40:04, September 30, 2007 CET | From | National Authoritarian Movement | To | Debating the Education standards |
| Message | Who's gonna check if the parents did a well job? Take a farmers son as an example. Maybe farming is the only thing daddy can teach his son. So his son will only be farmer in the future. He never learned anything different since his father decided to school him at home. Such cases are similiar to the middle ages, where you get born in a caste and will never leave it. Maybe the son had great abilities in physics, but he never explored. What a loss for the community... |
| Date | 13:37:57, September 30, 2007 CET | From | Liberty Party | To | Debating the Education standards |
| Message | "Well, lets use your example. Would the farmer even have time to teach the child? Of course not. The situations you describe just don't happen. Obviously if the children want to get their basic educational credentials like High School Diplomas, their parents would have to teach them well. What kind of parent would dedicate their time and effort to teaching their children if they had know idea how and made a mess of it? We also offer grants to parents homeschooling their children (not in the game but in all western democracies there's a grant system for home schooled kids), if the parents want to see any of this money to buy basic equipment, hire tutors for specific subjects (OCC the home schooled kids I've hard of all have at least one tutor for subjects their parents don't know how to cover) etc then they have to pass the criteria, which includes mainstream tests. If they don't get these grants, homeschooling becomes more and more expensive, the child and parents realize it's not in eithers interest's to continue the schooling, they'll choose a real school then. People who're disgruntled with the government, the people your Authoritarian party loathes, don't just home school their kids as a political statement. It's a big job, and as parents, they'll always be acting in the best way for their child." ~Susan Copper |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 75 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 326 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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