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Bill: Platform of El Partido Liberal
Details
Submitted by[?]: Partido Democrático Liberal - L.C.
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 2470
Description[?]:
| The Liberal Platform |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning granting citizenship.
Old value:: Citizenship is gained by passing a qualifying exam.
Current: Citizenship is granted to all nationals.
Proposed: Citizenship is granted to all nationals.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Weapon concealment.
Old value:: Where weapons are carried, this must be done openly.
Current: Where weapons are carried, this must be done openly.
Proposed: People must first obtain a permit in order to carry concealed weapons.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The nation's defence industry.
Old value:: The state owns national defence industries but these exist alongside privately owned defence industries.
Current: The state owns all defence industries.
Proposed: Defence industries are privately owned but subsidised by the state.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change
The government's policy regarding foreign investments.
Old value:: Foreign investors may invest in national companies, but may not get a majority share.
Current: Foreign investors need to obtain government approval for all investments in national companies.
Proposed: Foreign investors may freely invest in national companies.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change Health care policy.
Old value:: There is a public health care system, but private clinics are allowed.
Current: There is a free public health care system and a small number of private clinics, which are heavily regulated to ensure they treat their patients well and provide good care.
Proposed: There is a free public health care system and a small number of private clinics, which are heavily regulated to ensure they treat their patients well and provide good care.
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change
The government's stance on illegal aliens.
Old value:: The government actively searches houses for illegal aliens and expels them from the country.
Current: The government actively searches houses for illegal aliens and expels them from the country.
Proposed: The government does not actively search for illegal aliens, but expels them from the country when discovered.
Article 7
Proposal[?] to change The nation's policy on the separation of the police and the military.
Old value:: A civilian police force is in place, backed up by the military.
Current: The military acts as a de-facto police force, with powers of arrest.
Proposed: A civilian police force is in place and the military may be called in to help in serious emergencies.
Article 8
Proposal[?] to change The state's policy concerning religious clothing.
Old value:: There are no laws regulating the wearing of religious clothing and the wearing of religious symbols.
Current: Public officials are not allowed to wear religious symbols while exercising their duties.
Proposed: Public officials are not allowed to wear religious symbols while exercising their duties.
Article 9
Proposal[?] to change The professional retirement age.
Old value:: 70
Current: 65
Proposed: 65
Article 10
Proposal[?] to change The government's stance on vaccinations.
Old value:: The government mandates vaccination for all children, but parents may opt out for religious or ideological reasons.
Current: The government mandates vaccination for all children, but parents may opt out for religious or ideological reasons.
Proposed: The government mandates vaccination for all children.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 17:42:23, October 13, 2007 CET | From |  Trabajo y Libertad | To | Debating the Platform of El Partido Liberal |
| Message | The professional retirement age: agree, people have worked all their lives and deserve their retirement Government policy concerning granting citizenship: disagree, there are certain rights which apply to a citizen that must be restricted from those unable or unwilling to support Davostan National Health Care policy: agree, though full nationalisation would be preferred The government's stance on illegal aliens: disagree, we can't just turn a blind eye. Weapon concealment: undecided The State's policy concerning religious clothing: agree, though this should be taken further The nation's Defence Industry: disagree, we believe in full nationalisation The government's stance on vaccinations: undecided The nation's policy on the separation of the police and the military: disagree The government's policy regarding foreign investments: strongly disagree |
| Date | 22:20:47, October 13, 2007 CET | From | Partido Democrático Liberal - L.C. | To | Debating the Platform of El Partido Liberal |
| Message | Citizenship: If you are born in Davostan you should be entitled to citizenship as a right. Immigration: So we should all just go into everyone's houses and abuse freedom of privacy. It should be the responsibiblity of the border patrol to guard the border to make sure that illegal aliens don't get in, more money to the border to protect instead of more money to the police to violate civil rights. Vaccination: Relgion should not play a part in Davostan's effort to fight against diesease and plague. This is an example of how religion holds a country back. Police and Military: The military should not be involved our police that is a recipe for a dictatorship, however the military should be allowed to help in serious emergencies such as a natural disaster. |
| Date | 22:22:04, October 13, 2007 CET | From | Partido Democrático Liberal - L.C. | To | Debating the Platform of El Partido Liberal |
| Message | Sorry. Any ways Foreign Investments: So you would rather slow our economy maybe three fold for what reason?? |
| Date | 22:22:04, October 13, 2007 CET | From | Partido Democrático Liberal - L.C. | To | Debating the Platform of El Partido Liberal |
| Message | Sorry. Any ways Foreign Investments: So you would rather slow our economy maybe three fold for what reason?? |
| Date | 11:22:16, October 14, 2007 CET | From | Trabajo y Libertad | To | Debating the Platform of El Partido Liberal |
| Message | We can somewhat accept that those born in Davostan should be considered nationals, but citizenship is something more. It is a gift that needs to be earned. As for immigration, by failing to seek out illegal immigrants we essentially tell them that as long as they can get over the border they can stay. Military involvement in policing is a recipe for a strong nation, not a dictatorship. A criminal has defied the nations law, they are an enemy of the nation. Foreign investment should never lead to Davostan loosing control of our economy. What good is a Davostani company when it's primary concern is foreign shareholders? They won't bother themselves about benefiting Davostan, just their foreign masters. |
| Date | 19:31:27, October 14, 2007 CET | From | Partido Democrático Liberal - L.C. | To | Debating the Platform of El Partido Liberal |
| Message | Citizenship is your right if you are born here, not an earned reward given by the government. Routine breaking of civil rights to look into houses for illegal immigrants is not worth it, it might be to you but not to the rest of Davostan. So to stop illegal immigrants we need to fund the border guards more and train them so that they will stop them, not so that they can come into everyone's house for the sake of looking for illegal aliens. And we will move heaven and earth to get him, ok you are trying to mix the responsibilites so be clear where do they draw the line, in fact according to you we should just have the police as the military. Then we should be the best now shouldnt we? Unlike you I think we should come out of our shell and take them on, not admit, "Oh well we're terrible, we're a stupid people, we can't ever win," ok I can't even comprehend that anyone would say that unless they are hopeless and don't have goals. We will have some countries maintaning a higher standard for example in cars, so what do we do? Our prices go up because of phony protectionism by the communists and withdraw into our shell? There is no incentives for our country to get better and your party should be ashamed of how they rather withdraw and not fight. Now do you want to respond or are you going to withdraw like your proposal says to do? Alejando Truillo Garcia, President of El Partido Democratico Liberal |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 0 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 100 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 105 |
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