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Bill: Call for early elections, September 2470

Details

Submitted by[?]: Ma'avak

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This bill requests an early election. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline. Elections will be held immediately if the bill passes.

Voting deadline: May 2471

Description[?]:

We believe the recent set of election were plauged with corruption and inaccuracy, in response we, Aymam, call for early elections as soon as we can reach a consensus.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date03:15:38, October 15, 2007 CET
FromPharaoh's People's Party
ToDebating the Call for early elections, September 2470
MessageDoes Aymam have evidence to support this claim of illegality?

Date03:19:02, October 15, 2007 CET
FromRobotic Anarcho Syndicalistic Party
ToDebating the Call for early elections, September 2470
MessageWe have not seen any proof of corruption in the elections, the only thing that is visible now, is that the people wish to take the nation a new direction, one which does not involve complete control from Aymam, Mizrachi and CZP.

Date03:21:18, October 15, 2007 CET
From Ma'avak
ToDebating the Call for early elections, September 2470
Message"The people may well wish to do so, perhaps they have grown tired of the Jewish state all together and wish a secular republic? That is indeed a possibility but do you really believe it is possible that the people of this nation wish to throw so much support behind a party that denies the existence of a Beiteynuese state, that wishes to see us destroyed and that wishes to see our people killed?"

-- Delshad Kandelcukier

Date03:25:24, October 15, 2007 CET
FromRobotic Anarcho Syndicalistic Party
ToDebating the Call for early elections, September 2470
Message"We have not been a part of the privileged majority and thus not been a part of the Beiteynuese mind reading and control, thus we know nothing of what goes on inside the heads of our supporters. Perhaps they are tired of the persecution that occurs within this state and wish to try a new direction. Regardless, until substantial proof can be provided, we refuse to return control of the nation to the parties who have persecuted us."

--Representation Unit 001

Date03:25:27, October 15, 2007 CET
FromPharaoh's People's Party
ToDebating the Call for early elections, September 2470
MessageHow could such a party, lacking (as you claim) support from the Beiteynuese, possibly rig our elecitons? They would need the loyalty of thousands of poll workers, or at least the ability to simultainiously and flawlessly forge our electoral results. Without an infrastructure of Beiteynuese behind them, this would be impossible, and as such they cannot have frauded the election.

The people have voted, and so let us allow the government to follow its course.

Date03:29:21, October 15, 2007 CET
From Ma'avak
ToDebating the Call for early elections, September 2470
Message"The same way they have cheated elections in the past, through fear tactics and persecution of voters. History does not lie, this is a party that will stop at nothing to see the destruction of Beiteynu."

-- Delshad Kandelcukier

OOC: Yeah fair enough I am once again clutching at straws here and I dont think I ever really thought this would pass. I guess if this were more realistic this would not have happened seeing as we kicked out all the Pntek and the rest of the nation pretty much hates them but its not and thats how it is and the game comes first. Oh well, guess we're here again then, gentelmen let the games commence!

Date03:35:52, October 15, 2007 CET
FromRobotic Anarcho Syndicalistic Party
ToDebating the Call for early elections, September 2470
Message"Fear tactics occur with all votes. How do we know that the reason my party or the PPP was not kept artificially small by fear-mongering frauds put out by the powers that were within this nation? Is this new party any less trustworth ythan any other political force?"

Date03:39:17, October 15, 2007 CET
From Ma'avak
ToDebating the Call for early elections, September 2470
Message"In reply to the RNP we have decided it is time to ask one simple question; do you support the existence of a Beiteynuese state, be it Jewish, secular, robotic, communist or anything else? Your answer to that question should determine who you lend your support to in the upcoming Knesset term."

-- Delshad Kandelcukier

Date03:54:12, October 15, 2007 CET
FromRobotic Anarcho Syndicalistic Party
ToDebating the Call for early elections, September 2470
MessageWhile we prefer an independent Beiteynuese state, we follow the will of the people. If the people will it that our nation cease to exist, who am I to argue with the will of the people? Until we can be provided with actually proof instead of heresy and ancient hatreds, we cannot support early elections.

Date03:58:40, October 15, 2007 CET
From Ma'avak
ToDebating the Call for early elections, September 2470
Message"The Pntéksrnék Dnkor [Krjoégrak Bakran] recently issued a statement to the nation of Pontesi in which they stated the following;

'Just to keep you posted - The Semites are in a minority, and I'm working on getting the Robots and Pharoah's on side so we can give them the other three areas provided we have Endild and Tadraki back.'

As we feared they are attempting the further the dissolution of the Beiteynuese state by handing sovereignty of two of our Mehozot to Pontesi. Sadly it appears they are merely using your party and the PPP has pawns in this cruel game and have no plans but to discard you as 'allies' once it has been accomplished."

-- Delshad Kandelcukier

Date04:00:07, October 15, 2007 CET
FromRobotic Anarcho Syndicalistic Party
ToDebating the Call for early elections, September 2470
Messagepawns or peasants... tis a difficult choice

Date14:42:29, October 15, 2007 CET
FromRed Anarchy Faction
ToDebating the Call for early elections, September 2470
Message"The PD seek a federal Jeztadraki once more for the Pntékai, and seek Pontesian protection.
The PD do not seek to dominate the other three as previous Pnték parties have done.
The PD will only change this is we are provoked for the protection of our brethren."

OOC: Custom Polls have shown everyone had a 85-90% turnout from their support.

Date15:48:07, October 15, 2007 CET
From Ma'avak
ToDebating the Call for early elections, September 2470
Message"There are no Pntekai in Tadraki and Endild, we expelled them all. Once again you wish to impose minority dictatorship over the majority of the populace."

-- Delshad Kandelcukier

Date16:16:51, October 15, 2007 CET
FromRed Anarchy Faction
ToDebating the Call for early elections, September 2470
MessageOOC:

in RE: OOC: Yeah fair enough I am once again clutching at straws here and I dont think I ever really thought this would pass. I guess if this were more realistic this would not have happened seeing as we kicked out all the Pntek and the rest of the nation pretty much hates them but its not and thats how it is and the game comes first. Oh well, guess we're here again then, gentelmen let the games commence!

You'll note the announcement speech the PD made said "now officially declared" and that the pockets had taken an influx of returners.

"I think you'll find that the vote in the regions proves your ignorance to the truth. You cannot point to the clouds your heads sit amongst when your digits through protecting your bubble sit caked in the wax of your deaf ears.

Were we dictators, why would we seek to protect the Pharoah's brethren and the Robots that you have ignored for so long? They clearly do not hate us and stand by us as we aid their people's interests and identity as they do ours. You are the ones who wish to maintain your minority dictatorship over the majority of a populace your blinkered sight is too dulled to see."

Date16:53:25, October 15, 2007 CET
From Ma'avak
ToDebating the Call for early elections, September 2470
MessageOOC: True but how would they have got in? We have "The nation imposes strict border control on visitors, with intensive security checks, to maintain law and order" as well as "Only refugees that are victims of extreme circumstances are welcome; they are given integration-aid." which was brought in to mean Jews expelled by Deltaria and finally "There are quotas based on nationality to determine how many foreigners may reside permanently in this nation." Maybe some Pntek would have got in but surely not enough to have gained citizenship and the right to vote that quickly to vote for you. But as is the way the game comes first, it just seems hard to RP how this would have happened.

Date00:05:39, October 16, 2007 CET
FromRed Anarchy Faction
ToDebating the Call for early elections, September 2470
MessageOOC: In terms of residence, Relatives of Naturalised Pntéks. In terms of transportation - even countries with border checks don't catch everyone on lorries and Semitic forces went 7 miles into Pontesian soil, obviously evading checks with military equipment. Far from obscure I'll think you'll agree.

Date01:11:18, October 16, 2007 CET
From Ma'avak
ToDebating the Call for early elections, September 2470
MessageOOC: When did we go 7 miles into Pontesian soil?

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