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Bill: Education for children under adult age.
Details
Submitted by[?]: Cooperative Commonwealth Federation
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 2039
Description[?]:
Free comprehensive national education shall be offered. This will raise the standard of literacy throughout the nation. Compulsory education, in the long run, will create a more educated and prosperous citizenry. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Education for children under adult age.
Old value:: Education is entirely voluntary.
Current: Education is compulsory and has to happen at school.
Proposed: Education is compulsory and has to happen at school.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
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From | | To | Debating the Education for children under adult age. | Message | There is no proof that compulsory education at formal schools increases literacy or knowledge. Compulsory education at schools, instead, turns out consumer drones. You need to examine history a little better. |
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From | Chorus of Amyst | To | Debating the Education for children under adult age. | Message | The nature of compulsory education often results in a higher literacy rate, perhaps, but the quality of that education often suffers even as it becoming more widespread. The Amystian Council will not support this bill. |
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From | Cooperative Commonwealth Federation | To | Debating the Education for children under adult age. | Message | Friends, we are falling behind. While neighbouring countries turn out scientists, our citizens are too often illiterate and unskilled. Our national development requires a more comprehensive educational system. We need to have schools that encourage critical thinking, certainly. It would not be our wish to turn out mindless consumer drones. That would, after all, increase the vote of the Shylock Party ;) Our legislation removing the requirement for schoolchildren to sing the national anthem shows that we value the personal autonomy of the student. However, the bill has been revised to permit home schooling, in the hopes that this will command a majority in parliament. |
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From | Chorus of Amyst | To | Debating the Education for children under adult age. | Message | Has the CCF given thought to those families who need their children at home to assist with farming or other such tasks? Do you propose that we use immigrants to take the place of farmers' children?
The school system would require massive restructuring if education were compulsory, as even with home schooling available most parents who do not already send their children to school would likely not have the time to home school. The sheer expenses of such a project make this bill infeasible. |
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From | Cooperative Commonwealth Federation | To | Debating the Education for children under adult age. | Message | The needs of the farmers are exactly why the school year builds in long breaks. The present system allows the children of the wealthy easy access to education and the advancement that comes with it. It dooms the children of farming communities to continued near-serfdom. That is why rural schools are so vital. Yes, there are great expenses in the short term to universal education. In the long term, this investment in the nation's people will benefit everyone. |
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From | | To | Debating the Education for children under adult age. | Message | The Shylock Party continues to stand by its original comments. This bill remains historically and ideologically unacceptable, as the value of bright and innovative children with ambition and a will to learn is much greater to the development of our nation than the production of consumer drones. |
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From | Cooperative Commonwealth Federation | To | Debating the Education for children under adult age. | Message | Bright and ambitious children continue to work on farms, denied access to schools by their parents and by the shortage of school spaces. It is by making education available to all that these children can be nurured. The curriculum does not have to encourage ideological sameness: that is a red herring. The CCF would like to propose the following compromise: education will be universal, but the compulsory school-leaving age will be dropped from 16 to 14. If another age suits the opposing parties better, then please say so. |
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From | Chorus of Amyst | To | Debating the Education for children under adult age. | Message | If education curriculums are not regulated then it is impossible to say that all areas will even benefit from compulsory schooling at all. Reducing the age to 14 will simply limit the effectiveness of compulsory schooling even further, making this bill pointless. |
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From | Cooperative Commonwealth Federation | To | Debating the Education for children under adult age. | Message | First the bill was wrong because it does too much. Now it is wrong because it does not do enough? We do not wish to lower the age to 14, this is offered as a compromise to meet the stated objections. Is there any compromise that the Amystian Council will accept for the sake of our children's literacy? |
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From | Chorus of Amyst | To | Debating the Education for children under adult age. | Message | Your attempts to compromise result in a bill that is already disagreed with becoming completely pointless. It is not the length of schooling that the Council holds objection with; it is the cost of such a program as a whole. |
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From | | To | Debating the Education for children under adult age. | Message | In any case, if literacy is your particular point of argument, that is easily taught. Children as young as two can be taught how to read quite well, without the need of them being any sort of prodigy. |
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yes | Total Seats: 33 |
no | Total Seats: 33 |
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