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Bill: Education for children under adult age.

Details

Submitted by[?]: Cooperative Commonwealth Federation

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: September 2039

Description[?]:

Free comprehensive national education shall be offered. This will raise the standard of literacy throughout the nation. Compulsory education, in the long run, will create a more educated and prosperous citizenry.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

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ToDebating the Education for children under adult age.
MessageThere is no proof that compulsory education at formal schools increases literacy or knowledge. Compulsory education at schools, instead, turns out consumer drones. You need to examine history a little better.

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FromLodamun Centre-Left Coalition
ToDebating the Education for children under adult age.
MessageEducation should be strongly encouraged, however, it should not be made compulsory.

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FromChorus of Amyst
ToDebating the Education for children under adult age.
MessageThe nature of compulsory education often results in a higher literacy rate, perhaps, but the quality of that education often suffers even as it becoming more widespread. The Amystian Council will not support this bill.

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FromCooperative Commonwealth Federation
ToDebating the Education for children under adult age.
MessageFriends, we are falling behind. While neighbouring countries turn out scientists, our citizens are too often illiterate and unskilled. Our national development requires a more comprehensive educational system. We need to have schools that encourage critical thinking, certainly. It would not be our wish to turn out mindless consumer drones. That would, after all, increase the vote of the Shylock Party ;) Our legislation removing the requirement for schoolchildren to sing the national anthem shows that we value the personal autonomy of the student. However, the bill has been revised to permit home schooling, in the hopes that this will command a majority in parliament.

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FromChorus of Amyst
ToDebating the Education for children under adult age.
MessageHas the CCF given thought to those families who need their children at home to assist with farming or other such tasks? Do you propose that we use immigrants to take the place of farmers' children?

The school system would require massive restructuring if education were compulsory, as even with home schooling available most parents who do not already send their children to school would likely not have the time to home school. The sheer expenses of such a project make this bill infeasible.

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FromCooperative Commonwealth Federation
ToDebating the Education for children under adult age.
MessageThe needs of the farmers are exactly why the school year builds in long breaks. The present system allows the children of the wealthy easy access to education and the advancement that comes with it. It dooms the children of farming communities to continued near-serfdom. That is why rural schools are so vital. Yes, there are great expenses in the short term to universal education. In the long term, this investment in the nation's people will benefit everyone.

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From
ToDebating the Education for children under adult age.
MessageThe Shylock Party continues to stand by its original comments. This bill remains historically and ideologically unacceptable, as the value of bright and innovative children with ambition and a will to learn is much greater to the development of our nation than the production of consumer drones.

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FromCooperative Commonwealth Federation
ToDebating the Education for children under adult age.
MessageBright and ambitious children continue to work on farms, denied access to schools by their parents and by the shortage of school spaces. It is by making education available to all that these children can be nurured. The curriculum does not have to encourage ideological sameness: that is a red herring. The CCF would like to propose the following compromise: education will be universal, but the compulsory school-leaving age will be dropped from 16 to 14. If another age suits the opposing parties better, then please say so.

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FromChorus of Amyst
ToDebating the Education for children under adult age.
MessageIf education curriculums are not regulated then it is impossible to say that all areas will even benefit from compulsory schooling at all. Reducing the age to 14 will simply limit the effectiveness of compulsory schooling even further, making this bill pointless.

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FromCooperative Commonwealth Federation
ToDebating the Education for children under adult age.
MessageFirst the bill was wrong because it does too much. Now it is wrong because it does not do enough? We do not wish to lower the age to 14, this is offered as a compromise to meet the stated objections. Is there any compromise that the Amystian Council will accept for the sake of our children's literacy?

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FromChorus of Amyst
ToDebating the Education for children under adult age.
MessageYour attempts to compromise result in a bill that is already disagreed with becoming completely pointless. It is not the length of schooling that the Council holds objection with; it is the cost of such a program as a whole.

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FromCooperative Commonwealth Federation
ToDebating the Education for children under adult age.
MessageThe attempt to compromise IS an attempt to reduce the cost. However, as this argument is becomgin circular, we shall allow the bill to fail and then move to the prisoner education act.

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From
ToDebating the Education for children under adult age.
MessageIn any case, if literacy is your particular point of argument, that is easily taught. Children as young as two can be taught how to read quite well, without the need of them being any sort of prodigy.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
  

Total Seats: 33

no
 

Total Seats: 33

abstain

    Total Seats: 0


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