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Bill: Working Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Liberal Reform Party of Cobura
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2477
Description[?]:
| We need to get more people to do jobs. With high unemployment support peple have no reason to go and work. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Guarantee of minimum income.
Old value:: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a reasonable, though not high, standard of living by the government.
Current: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a reasonable, though not high, standard of living by the government.
Proposed: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a very basic subsistence income by the government.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 17:53:05, October 26, 2007 CET | From |  Coburan Reform Party | To | Debating the Working Act |
| Message | Absolutely not! |
| Date | 18:06:54, October 26, 2007 CET | From | Party for Individualism and Kitties | To | Debating the Working Act |
| Message | no, no, no |
| Date | 19:52:47, October 26, 2007 CET | From | Democratic Labour Party of Cobura | To | Debating the Working Act |
| Message | Again the Liberals and Conservatives show themselves to be the nasty parties of Cobura |
| Date | 20:32:04, October 26, 2007 CET | From | Liberal Reform Party of Cobura | To | Debating the Working Act |
| Message | You just do not know how to create jobs and wealth. The fact is that restrictive and high-taxation policy wont work. We wont be able to offer people jobs if we continue on our course. If we canoot be competitable in the terra every damn job will go to our neighbours, while you will be crying back on the oldern days when we had jobs to offer. |
| Date | 21:00:06, October 26, 2007 CET | From | Party for Individualism and Kitties | To | Debating the Working Act |
| Message | by lowering the minimum wage? You can't be serious. What's good about people having jobs, but not being able to make ends meet? |
| Date | 21:01:45, October 26, 2007 CET | From | Party for Individualism and Kitties | To | Debating the Working Act |
| Message | oh, just noticed it is not about minmum wage :P Well but that just makes it worse. You take people the chance to live a live that is worth living. |
| Date | 21:07:28, October 26, 2007 CET | From | Liberal Reform Party of Cobura | To | Debating the Working Act |
| Message | Not really they still get enough money to live :)....With this we can get many of thos "lazy" people back to work.... |
| Date | 21:09:11, October 26, 2007 CET | From | Party for Individualism and Kitties | To | Debating the Working Act |
| Message | "very basic subsistence" Seems not so great. |
| Date | 21:10:23, October 26, 2007 CET | From | Revolucia Partio de Koburo | To | Debating the Working Act |
| Message | Yes LRP. Laziness is why people are unemployed. Jesus. I thought this kind of thinking went extinct in the 1920s? |
| Date | 21:13:33, October 26, 2007 CET | From | Liberal Reform Party of Cobura | To | Debating the Working Act |
| Message | Do you really think that people are unemployed because they can not find jobs :D (different social problems are not included in this, they should have their own system) |
| Date | 21:15:03, October 26, 2007 CET | From | Revolucia Partio de Koburo | To | Debating the Working Act |
| Message | There are a multitude of reasons for why people are unemployed. Of course, you would rather look down on them from your privileged position, and call them 'lazy'. |
| Date | 21:23:11, October 26, 2007 CET | From | Liberal Reform Party of Cobura | To | Debating the Working Act |
| Message | I do not look down on them , i just hope they can participate on working and pay taxes.So we could pay for school system and other necessarityes. |
| Date | 23:25:22, October 26, 2007 CET | From | Civilization Party of Cobura | To | Debating the Working Act |
| Message | Hmm. Makes sense to us. |
| Date | 10:14:44, October 27, 2007 CET | From | Coburan Reform Party | To | Debating the Working Act |
| Message | This doesn't make sense, It punishes the unemployed for being unable to find work, Also LRPC what about disabled people? What about people who have been discriminated against when trying to find work? What about people with large families, who have just lost their jobs or been made redundant? What about those people LRPC? |
| Date | 13:14:00, October 27, 2007 CET | From | Liberal Reform Party of Cobura | To | Debating the Working Act |
| Message | Disabled people should have their own system, and we have been succesful on giving somekind of work to them too, to help them feel better about theirself :) People who have been discrimated? those can complain their treatment and sue the person discriminating them, of course coutry provides free legal assistance if needed. People can be helped to get new jobs,this sum is enough to provide minimun necesssarities to families,and since we give high child-benefit (which is something we will 100% support) there will be no immediate risks for children. |
| Date | 09:09:18, October 28, 2007 CET | From | Coburan Reform Party | To | Debating the Working Act |
| Message | Oh course their are, How are families who don't have jobs going to pay for PRIVATE library books? -Joanne McEllistrem CRP spokesperson on Social Welfare |
| Date | 10:43:46, October 28, 2007 CET | From | Liberal Reform Party of Cobura | To | Debating the Working Act |
| Message | Why should people pay for library books , we voted that libraries would be run by private companies, but that does not mean that books would cost anything to borrow. |
| Date | 11:42:22, October 28, 2007 CET | From | Revolucia Partio de Koburo | To | Debating the Working Act |
| Message | Yes it does. They can charge if they wish, which is intolerable. |
| Date | 19:14:32, October 28, 2007 CET | From | Liberal Reform Party of Cobura | To | Debating the Working Act |
| Message | no they can not! government pays for the best offer that gives a free borrowing. You have really not understood how democraticly chosen best offer works... |
| Date | 22:30:26, October 28, 2007 CET | From | Revolucia Partio de Koburo | To | Debating the Working Act |
| Message | No, you don't seem to understand how private business and in particular private libraries work. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 243 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 257 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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