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Bill: Welfare, December 2476
Details
Submitted by[?]: Computational Intellect Project
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2477
Description[?]:
| Perhaps this proposal is better. Why should people refusing to work be allowed anything more than subsistence? |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Guarantee of minimum income.
Old value:: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a reasonable, though not high, standard of living by the government.
Current: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a very basic subsistence income by the government.
Proposed: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a very basic subsistence income by the government.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 21:42:59, October 27, 2007 CET | From | Social Democratic Pacifist Party | To | Debating the Welfare, December 2476 |
| Message | the SDPP voted no because we wonder if the proposal would apply to those who are unable to get work. If a person is disabled, and cannot work, would they be forced to live with nothing but the bare minimum? |
| Date | 21:47:13, October 27, 2007 CET | From | Computational Intellect Project | To | Debating the Welfare, December 2476 |
| Message | May we remind you we are also vouching for free higher education for all. So, if a person is physically disabled, then that person can get a desk job. If such a job requires higher education, the education would be free, and therefore they would be able to get such a job. Seeing as that room and board and tuition would be covered by the state, the person would be better off in college than most other people on welfare. And desk jobs can't, or at least shouldn't (we remember you voted to strike down a bill banning workplace discrimination) discriminate based upon a physical disability because the person does not need physical ability for the job, so the person would be able to get a job. |
| Date | 21:53:06, October 27, 2007 CET | From | Computational Intellect Project | To | Debating the Welfare, December 2476 |
| Message | As in all bills we propose, we have thoroughly thought this out of course. And, as you may or may not have noticed, we only pity those in a poor condition because of conditions beyond their control (lack of opportunity, which is why we wish to pass the "Equality and Corruption of Humanity" bill to help alleviate some of these problems in unequal opportunity) or because of one or two simple mistakes. We do not pity those who consistently make poor decisions their whole lives and end up in the underclass as a result; they are doomed to such a fate and they deserve it. Hence, we are the Nihilist Council of SOCIAL DARWINISM. The strong-minded end up at the top, and the weak-minded end up at the bottom; this is the natural order of things, and just like messing with the food chain or process of evolution, interference only results in disaster. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 108 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 105 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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