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Bill: Torture, February 2477
Details
Submitted by[?]: Computational Intellect Project
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 2477
Description[?]:
| Torture is unethical and should be banned. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The use of torture for obtaining information.
Old value:: Suspects can only be tortured under grave emergencies where the information is vital.
Current: Torture is never allowed.
Proposed: Torture is never allowed.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 23:43:03, October 27, 2007 CET | From |  Traviscist Party | To | Debating the Torture, February 2477 |
| Message | The small bit of reliable information received through torture makes the process worthwhile. If only 10% of the information is legitimate, and we can use that to save people, shouldn't we? I say that person's agony is indeed worth another person's life. |
| Date | 23:43:30, October 27, 2007 CET | From | Traviscist Party | To | Debating the Torture, February 2477 |
| Message | one person's* |
| Date | 09:59:59, October 28, 2007 CET | From | Computational Intellect Project | To | Debating the Torture, February 2477 |
| Message | We see this point; but may we remind you it is almost impossible just to get 10 percent legitimate information. In fact, studies show it's nearly impossible just to get 1 percent; that is why most civilized countries ban it; people will say or do anything to make the pain stop, and will give out false information if necessary. In fact, if someone is loyal to something, that person will only give out false information. We would then use this false information as if it were truth, and waste our money, resources, and lives, and find out that believing the person did more harm than good. Therefore, torture accomplishes nothing but things even worse. Now torture lite (so-called torture that does not leave long-term physical results) is a totally different story, but that would not be banned with this bill. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 213 | |||||||
| no | Total Seats: 0 | |||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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