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Bill: Action for an Atheist State 2477
Details
Submitted by[?]: Trabajo y Libertad
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 2479
Description[?]:
| More attempts to cut religion's hold on our people and country. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning the visitation of foreign missionaries.
Old value:: The government requires foreign missionaries to register with the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
Current: Foreign missionaries are not permitted to enter the nation.
Proposed: The government determines which missionaries are permitted to visit on a person by person basis.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The state's intervention in the appointment of ministers of religion.
Old value:: The state does not intervene in the appointment of ministers of any religion whatsoever.
Current: The state does not intervene in the appointment of ministers of any religion whatsoever.
Proposed: The state nominates ministers of religion, but the appointment is left up to the religious communities themselves.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards evangelism and religious advertising.
Old value:: Religions are permitted to freely promote and advertise themselves.
Current: Religions are not permitted to promote themselves or advertise in any manner whatsoever.
Proposed: Religions are required to obtain government approval before promoting themselves or advertising in any manner.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 16:16:25, October 29, 2007 CET | From |  Partido Laborista Socialista | To | Debating the Action for an Atheist State 2477 |
| Message | Yes, Government policy towards evangelism and religious advertising will allow the government to prevent the spread of religion, and the same goes for The Government policy concerning the visitation of foreign missionaries. The State's intervention in the appointment of ministers of religion will allow us the ability to keep religion from becoming to extreme. |
| Date | 23:58:19, October 29, 2007 CET | From | Partido Democrático Liberal - L.C. | To | Debating the Action for an Atheist State 2477 |
| Message | Very liberal indeed Mr. Speaker, I would be tinking we would have to be looking more at the limiting the church intervening in the state however, here it is becoming exactly the opposite. However, this limits the freedom of religion very greatly and we staunchly oppose. |
| Date | 06:30:14, October 30, 2007 CET | From | Partido Democrático Liberal - L.C. | To | Debating the Action for an Atheist State 2477 |
| Message | OOC: Pardon my spelling error tinking, it should be thinking, I know the Bolshevik would love to jump on it, but already jumped on it for him. |
| Date | 10:22:25, October 30, 2007 CET | From | Partido Laborista Socialista | To | Debating the Action for an Atheist State 2477 |
| Message | OOC: get firefox, it has a built-in spellchecker. IC: We feel that this is the best way to protect people's freedoms. Surely people should be free from feeling forced to engage in practices that they oppose because a religious leader tells them so, or from some perverted practices of some foreign missionaries. Not to say that all foreign missionaries are perverted, just that some of them may follow practices that are so. Also, religious advertising should not be engaged in, as people should want to join a religion for what it stands for, not for a shiny ad campaign. Surely there are better ways of advertising than the traditional routes of billboards, posters and tv-ads, such as charity? |
| Date | 17:55:22, October 30, 2007 CET | From | Partido Democrático Liberal - L.C. | To | Debating the Action for an Atheist State 2477 |
| Message | Well why should their right be resticted and not those of other corporations that are well let's say unorthodox. |
| Date | 20:42:19, October 30, 2007 CET | From | Trabajo y Libertad | To | Debating the Action for an Atheist State 2477 |
| Message | We don't just want to restrict the rights of religions, we agree that corporations should be restricted. In fact, like religion we feel they should be destroyed. |
| Date | 23:49:28, October 30, 2007 CET | From | Partido Democrático Liberal - L.C. | To | Debating the Action for an Atheist State 2477 |
| Message | Well where are your restriction methods on them??? You are solely aiming for the church. |
| Date | 09:50:30, October 31, 2007 CET | From | Trabajo y Libertad | To | Debating the Action for an Atheist State 2477 |
| Message | For the moment it's a higher priority. We have proposed nationalisation across the board previously, and I'm sure we will again. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes | Total Seats: 55 | ||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 170 | ||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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