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Bill: Education
Details
Submitted by[?]: Falanges Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 2481
Description[?]:
| Private schools are always encouraged; but we should give the choice to parents and their children. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Higher education institutions.
Old value:: The government does not maintain any forms of higher education.
Current: The government maintains a system of universities, vocational schools, and colleges nationwide.
Proposed: The government maintains a system of universities nationwide.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The education system.
Old value:: Education is private, but the government issues vouchers to pay for the schooling of disadvantaged children.
Current: Education is private, but the government issues vouchers to pay for the schooling of disadvantaged children.
Proposed: There is a free public education system alongside private schools.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 10:57:20, November 04, 2007 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Education |
| Message | How will this free public education system be funded? Will school buildings be donated by wealthy landlords and the teachers work for free, using books from charity shops? |
| Date | 12:54:29, November 04, 2007 CET | From | Liberal Alliance | To | Debating the Education |
| Message | Good Education for our beloved citizens must cost, my Dear Friend. |
| Date | 13:54:13, November 04, 2007 CET | From | Falanges Party | To | Debating the Education |
| Message | the public sector will be funded by the government, including wages for the teachers,but of course donations for the public sector are welcomed. |
| Date | 21:25:43, November 04, 2007 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Education |
| Message | The article says "free", not funded by general taxation. Hopefully I don't need to explain the difference? |
| Date | 21:39:40, November 04, 2007 CET | From | Falanges Party | To | Debating the Education |
| Message | I think it is meant by free that there are no tuition fees to be paid. Please correct me if i am wrong. |
| Date | 21:54:36, November 04, 2007 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Education |
| Message | But tuition fees are being paid, every time you get paid, earn interest, or buy something: whether you have kids of school age or not. |
| Date | 21:59:37, November 04, 2007 CET | From | Falanges Party | To | Debating the Education |
| Message | What i meant is that there are two kinds of schools. One is Private, students pay their tuitions, not funded by the government. The other kind is the public schools. Students entering these schools do not pay tuitions, and the government subsidizes these schools (teachers wages, other expenses...). I hope i got your point. |
| Date | 00:25:04, November 05, 2007 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Education |
| Message | Hmm, I presume those parents paying tuition fees to independent schools would be entitled to a partial tax refund, so that they are not paying tuition fees to the state schools they are not using as well? Otherwise they would be paying twice. |
| Date | 11:27:23, November 05, 2007 CET | From | Falanges Party | To | Debating the Education |
| Message | This may be logic. We can give a refund or a cut of taxes in other fields (income tax) for parents sending their children to private schools. Or we can simply charge a very small amout of money as a symbolic tuition fee to parents sending their children to public schools. These symbolic fees, added togeter plus all the donations to public schools the government gets, may be sufficient to run these schools. |
| Date | 13:29:51, November 05, 2007 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Education |
| Message | I've just re-read the article and have realised it doesn't say anywhere that the free schools are funded by the government. It just says 'There is a free public education system alongside private schools': this is obviously talking about church schools. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 73 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 32 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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