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Bill: Nationalisation of the defense forces.
Details
Submitted by[?]: Communist Party of Hobrazia
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 2486
Description[?]:
| This proposal is to nationalise all our defense industries in order to ensure that all of our national defense is controlled by the state rather than corporations working only for profit no matter how heavily they are regulated. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The nation's defence industry.
Old value:: The state owns national defence industries but these exist alongside privately owned defence industries.
Current: The state owns national defence industries but these exist alongside privately owned defence industries.
Proposed: The state owns all defence industries.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 21:30:25, November 11, 2007 CET | From | We Say So! Party | To | Debating the Nationalisation of the defense forces. |
| Message | We do not accept this. Whilst we understand the reasoning behind our right honourable colleagues stance we feel that the advantages provided by the operation of both public and private defence industries provide the best way of providing good product with innovation and cost effective provision of equipment. Private industry is capable of pouring huge sums of money into innovation which the public sector cannot afford allowing Hobrazia to operate modern military equipment, whilst the public sector does a superb job of providing specialist equipment and maintaining existing equipment to a high standard. Each can provide better and more efficient services in differing areas. Having both available to the government allows us to gain from each sector much more readily than a single provision alone. |
| Date | 17:30:36, November 12, 2007 CET | From | Hobrazian Federalist Party | To | Debating the Nationalisation of the defense forces. |
| Message | This is another attempt by the Communist party to divert the power of the people into the power of the organizations of tyranny which exist throughout the land. |
| Date | 19:02:55, November 12, 2007 CET | From | Communist Party of Hobrazia | To | Debating the Nationalisation of the defense forces. |
| Message | So the Anti-Gaulist Alliance believe that Hobrazia's democratically elected goverment are the organisations of tyranny, a goverment they themselves are a part of. What a wonderful message to present to their voters. |
| Date | 22:15:31, November 14, 2007 CET | From | Hobrazian Federalist Party | To | Debating the Nationalisation of the defense forces. |
| Message | We are to rip apart the beast from the inside. |
| Date | 23:40:03, November 14, 2007 CET | From | Communist Party of Hobrazia | To | Debating the Nationalisation of the defense forces. |
| Message | So you wish to destroy Hobrazia's democraticly elected goverment. That makes you a traitor to your country and an enemy of the people. We agree that the system isn't perfect but the destruction of democracy is a violation of the rights of the people who, you must remember put you in the position you are in today. This makes you not only a hypocrypt but also a danger to society. |
| Date | 21:24:18, November 15, 2007 CET | From | Partai Komunis Hobrazia | To | Debating the Nationalisation of the defense forces. |
| Message | Perhaps you do not understand the A-GA's intentions. They wish to end the government and let the people decide for themselves as they wish. As they are democractically elected to do so, it is not treason. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 0 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 162 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 238 |
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