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Bill: Bill for the Unity of Farmers and the Ecological Ties of Tyranny to be Cut from Them
Details
Submitted by[?]: Hobrazian Federalist Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2486
Description[?]:
| This bill seeks to further privatize the farms of the nation; to bring the farmers into the control of their own lives, and to cut them further from the ties of the ecological movement which threatens them. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government agricultural and farming subsidies policy.
Old value:: Strategic crops are produced on State owned farms. All other produce is left to the Private sector.
Current: The government subsidises the operations of low-income farming families.
Proposed: The government allows local governments to craft agricultural subsidy policy.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Forest management.
Old value:: There is a national agency which exists side-by-side with commercial forestry companies.
Current: There is a national agency which owns and manages all forest land.
Proposed: Local governments may set up forestry agencies. Where they do not, forestry is on a commercial basis.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 14:28:53, November 13, 2007 CET | From |  We Say So! Party | To | Debating the Bill for the Unity of Farmers and the Ecological Ties of Tyranny to be Cut from Them |
| Message | We state here and now that this bill shows the hypocrisy with which the A-GA operate. They state that they are "privatising the farms of the nation" and bringing "farmers into the control of their own lives". All they are actually doing is giving control of farms to local governments. There is nothing in this bill that would stop a local government from nationalising the farms in their area. There is nothing in this bill that frees farmers from any regulations, instead allowing local governments to introduce whole rafts of new bureaucratic nonsense that could harm farming productivity. But, just as importantly, there is nothing in this bill that confirms the production of foodstuffs in any way to guarantee that low paid peoples and families can support themselves. |
| Date | 23:34:11, November 13, 2007 CET | From | Hobrazian Federalist Party | To | Debating the Bill for the Unity of Farmers and the Ecological Ties of Tyranny to be Cut from Them |
| Message | The tyrannical "We Say So!" Party do not realize that the AGA must do its reforms slowly. Now local governments can nationalize the farms in the area that they operate in, but not when our reforms are fully implemented. |
| Date | 23:58:02, November 13, 2007 CET | From | We Say So! Party | To | Debating the Bill for the Unity of Farmers and the Ecological Ties of Tyranny to be Cut from Them |
| Message | So you would rather local government be allowed to nationalise private farms, and thusly private property, rather than allow private farmers to continue to provide for this nation, to toil on their land, to work for themselves. And they call us "tyrannical". |
| Date | 04:34:23, November 14, 2007 CET | From | Hobrazian Federalist Party | To | Debating the Bill for the Unity of Farmers and the Ecological Ties of Tyranny to be Cut from Them |
| Message | The local government shall soon be controlled by the people, and with the realization of the increasingly federalist outlook of the nation comes the confidence of the person to affect his or her community. |
| Date | 23:35:15, November 14, 2007 CET | From | Communist Party of Hobrazia | To | Debating the Bill for the Unity of Farmers and the Ecological Ties of Tyranny to be Cut from Them |
| Message | Unfortunitly due to unforseen circumstances we could not vote on this issue however we are very pleased to see it defeated. This is a victory for the people and for Hobrazia. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 95 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 182 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 123 |
| Random fact: Submitting a bill without any proposals in it will not attract or detract voters. It will not raise your visibility or change your political position. |
| Random quote: "Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end." - John Dalberg-Acton |