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Bill: Responsible journalism only.

Details

Submitted by[?]: Adam Smith Party

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: November 2102

Description[?]:

Due to the number of recent cases in which innocent individuals have had their lives ruined due to factualy inaccurate material being printed in the nation newspapers, and reported through the Television and radio networks (including Vox Pop) it is considered necessary to reinstitute laws concerning libel.

It is proposed that any media organ that disseminates untrue information concerning individuals, be they physical persons or juridical persons, shall be held liable for the damages so caused and be subject to a punitive damages award of not more then 6 times the national average monthly salary. They are also on conviction to be liable for a punitive fine of half of their average annual revenue calculated over the previous five years. Any income from this is to be directed toward government education costs.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date20:37:43, August 25, 2005 CET
From Tuesday Is Coming
ToDebating the Responsible journalism only.
MessageVoxPop and the Democrat have proven, through publishing false information, that they are unreliable media sources. A better option would be to remove the government funding from TV and radio.

Date20:52:30, August 25, 2005 CET
From National People's Gang
ToDebating the Responsible journalism only.
MessageThe incident to which you refer did not occur. If you choose, it can, of course, re-occur.

Date20:58:53, August 25, 2005 CET
From Tuesday Is Coming
ToDebating the Responsible journalism only.
MessageThe Democrat published false information about someone. In defense of their statements, there were statements made that "false information is not against the law". As it has been proven to be as reliable as a tabloid, we now regard it as such.

Date21:19:37, August 25, 2005 CET
FromAdam Smith Party
ToDebating the Responsible journalism only.
MessageThis has nothing to do with government funding or not. That is a different debate. This is about holding journalists to the same laws of libel that the rest of the nation are subject to. If you or I were to publish an unfactual claim about someone, then we could be prosecuted by that pereson, however the media are at current granted immunity to this right of redress. That has to be changed.

Date21:52:06, August 25, 2005 CET
From National People's Gang
ToDebating the Responsible journalism only.
MessageIf the TiC criminals were to check the publication carrying the alleged article they will see that it doesn't exist. If they wish to persist with the accusation, it can, of course, exist again - and will have been brought into being by TiC.

Yes or no?

Date21:53:28, August 25, 2005 CET
From National People's Gang
ToDebating the Responsible journalism only.
MessageTabloid is a measurement of paper.

Date01:36:52, August 26, 2005 CET
FromAdam Smith Party
ToDebating the Responsible journalism only.
MessageAnd cute means skillful. Words change their meanings with usage POATN, and tabloid means popular sensationalist irresponsible journalism now.

Date05:13:33, August 26, 2005 CET
FromCNT/AFL
ToDebating the Responsible journalism only.
MessageVox Pop Media has a policy that includes only presenting fact as fact. There is no reason to change the law, at present, if someone is not satisfied with the media they consume, they can turn to Vox Pop.

Date05:35:55, August 26, 2005 CET
From Tuesday Is Coming
ToDebating the Responsible journalism only.
Message(I was responding to the information in the description)

Date17:29:21, August 26, 2005 CET
FromAdam Smith Party
ToDebating the Responsible journalism only.
MessageThere have been cases of Vox Pop misrepresenting the facts. Whether this is editorial policy, or simply as a result of the enforced amateurism is open to debate. We would be more than willing to close down Vox Pop if necessary but we prefer to simply make the need to fact check stories before broadcasting them imperative. This strikes us as a sensible compromise.

Date18:02:08, August 26, 2005 CET
From National People's Gang
ToDebating the Responsible journalism only.
Message"Tabloid" used to be synonymous with sensationalist irresponsible journalism but since The Independent, The Times and The Telegraph have all launched tabloid versions the tabloid v broadsheet description is unsatisfactory and misleading. More commonly, these former "Tabloids" are referred to as Red Tops (because mostly their titlepiece - often wrongly called the masthead - is either in red text or is a white reverse on a red box). They are also called the "pops" where the distinction suggests the populist press v the "serious" press.

However, the phrase "News International" is perhaps the most accurate descriptor of the kind of publication to which you refer.

As far as the bill goes, do you plan similar restraints on other businesses which make mistakes?

Given the bill is concerned with accuracy, you may also wish to edit the words "factually", "inaccurate" and "radio".

Date22:04:49, August 27, 2005 CET
FromAdam Smith Party
ToDebating the Responsible journalism only.
MessageYes we can correct how you hear what we say. Other businesses are already restricted by libel laws, it is only the media that is exempt.

What are these "News International, The Independent, The Times and The Telegraph" that you refer to?

Date22:06:03, August 27, 2005 CET
FromAdam Smith Party
ToDebating the Responsible journalism only.
MessageAnd what is wrong with factually? (It is spelled or spelt correctly.)

Date22:56:24, August 27, 2005 CET
From Tuesday Is Coming
ToDebating the Responsible journalism only.
MessageWe cannot support this proposal as it exists now, sorry

Date23:11:10, August 27, 2005 CET
From National People's Gang
ToDebating the Responsible journalism only.
Message"Due to the number of recent cases in which innocent individuals have had their lives ruined due to [ factualy ] inaccurate material being printed in the nation newspapers"

May we request that members of ASP do not apply for fact checking positions in Lodamun media companies?

Date23:31:34, August 27, 2005 CET
From Tuesday Is Coming
ToDebating the Responsible journalism only.
MessageMay we request the the POATN quits speaking?

Date01:01:58, August 28, 2005 CET
From National People's Gang
ToDebating the Responsible journalism only.
MessageYou may indeed - and please feel free to hold your breath while waiting for confirmation of conformity to it.

Date03:06:34, August 28, 2005 CET
FromAdam Smith Party
ToDebating the Responsible journalism only.
MessageNo need to apologise TiC. We did not expect you to support this.

Date07:46:55, August 28, 2005 CET
From Tuesday Is Coming
ToDebating the Responsible journalism only.
MessageI see it will be passed anyway...Does this mean that the democrat will be liable for damages to Mr. Reynolds?

Date16:53:12, August 28, 2005 CET
FromCooperative Commonwealth Federation
ToDebating the Responsible journalism only.
MessageUnless there are plans to make the law retroactive, then no.

Date18:47:58, August 28, 2005 CET
From Tuesday Is Coming
ToDebating the Responsible journalism only.
MessageThat was the question...We currently have no laws addressing ex post facto

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Voting

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Total Seats: 157

no
     

Total Seats: 143

abstain

    Total Seats: 0


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