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Bill: Parliament Act 2101
Details
Submitted by[?]: RSDP - Democratic Front
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2102
Description[?]:
| An Act to enhance our democracy by increasing the number of seats in the Federal Parliament. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The total number of seats in the legislative assembly. Should be between 75 and 750.
Old value:: 599
Current: 650
Proposed: 749
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 18:48:33, August 26, 2005 CET | From | Official Dragon Bacon-Eaters' Party | To | Debating the Parliament Act 2101 |
| Message | You're all bloody nutjobs. 750 seats? We can barely manage 400 in Beluzia (by the way, we violated your treaty). |
| Date | 18:58:59, August 26, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Imperialist Party | To | Debating the Parliament Act 2101 |
| Message | Shut up and get out of our country. Aye. |
| Date | 18:59:22, August 26, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Imperialist Party | To | Debating the Parliament Act 2101 |
| Message | Actually make it 749 so we cant have ties. |
| Date | 20:18:37, August 26, 2005 CET | From | Official Dragon Bacon-Eaters' Party | To | Debating the Parliament Act 2101 |
| Message | Don't tell us what to do or we'll use our newly developed chemical weapons on Rutania! |
| Date | 21:05:14, August 26, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Imperialist Party | To | Debating the Parliament Act 2101 |
| Message | You are what is called a "n00b". You fix this by going away and not bothering other people. |
| Date | 21:22:08, August 26, 2005 CET | From | Civic Democratic Party | To | Debating the Parliament Act 2101 |
| Message | OOC: Get the hell out of here. Why don't you go spam someone elses board. You can never get away from annoying people no matter where you go. IC: I like the enlarged legislature since it would allow for more smaller parties, like my own, to win seats. Although my party agrees with the Liberal Imperialists in saying that 749 would be a better number since we would then not be able to have tie votes. |
| Date | 21:58:48, August 26, 2005 CET | From |  RSDP - Democratic Front | To | Debating the Parliament Act 2101 |
| Message | "(by the way, we violated your treaty)." Which provision of the treaty are you referring to? And would you be so kind as to direct us to the appropriate bill? |
| Date | 21:59:51, August 26, 2005 CET | From | RSDP - Democratic Front | To | Debating the Parliament Act 2101 |
| Message | "Actually make it 749 so we cant have ties." OOC: Done. |
| Date | 23:00:21, August 26, 2005 CET | From | Grand Republican Party | To | Debating the Parliament Act 2101 |
| Message | I like this. Aye |
| Date | 23:37:11, August 26, 2005 CET | From | Civic Democratic Party | To | Debating the Parliament Act 2101 |
| Message | Since most parties seem to be in agreement over this new parliament size can we get a vote on this? |
| Date | 00:11:29, August 27, 2005 CET | From | Radical Freedom Party | To | Debating the Parliament Act 2101 |
| Message | Opposed. Why do we need so bloody many MPs? And can we not at least wait until the Freedom Party returns after this weekend before implementing such wide-ranging constitutional changes? *sigh* I guess some people see their moment of power when it is there. |
| Date | 00:29:35, August 27, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Imperialist Party | To | Debating the Parliament Act 2101 |
| Message | More MPS = greater diferentiation between parties. |
| Date | 00:33:35, August 27, 2005 CET | From | Radical Freedom Party | To | Debating the Parliament Act 2101 |
| Message | This would make parliament ridicilously big though. |
| Date | 00:50:02, August 27, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Imperialist Party | To | Debating the Parliament Act 2101 |
| Message | How do you define "ridiculously big". It will make it 25% bigger, yes, but I hardly see any disadvantage to that, especially as it allows the peoples' opinion to be better represented. Surely a "Liberty Movement" would support that? |
| Date | 04:55:29, August 27, 2005 CET | From | Civic Democratic Party | To | Debating the Parliament Act 2101 |
| Message | I stand firmly with the Liberal Imperialists on this. How could a Liberty Movement be against giving the people more say in the government. With a large parliament it will be easier for parties to gain seats through the proportional system and thus allow the parties that the people want in the Federal Parliament to be better represented. |
| Date | 05:26:55, August 27, 2005 CET | From | Official Dragon Bacon-Eaters' Party | To | Debating the Parliament Act 2101 |
| Message | "You are what is called a "n00b". You fix this by going away and not bothering other people." "OOC: Get the hell out of here. Why don't you go spam someone elses board. You can never get away from annoying people no matter where you go." If you have a problem with it, stop your parties from coming over to Beluzia. |
| Date | 15:09:53, August 27, 2005 CET | From | Radical Freedom Party | To | Debating the Parliament Act 2101 |
| Message | we are of the opinion that it is fairly unneccecery to have THAT many parlimentarians. It will either make debates a quagmire or reduce hordes of MPs to mindless voting machines. Can you even imagine having an orderly discussion with 749 people? It is madness. |
| Date | 15:16:42, August 27, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Imperialist Party | To | Debating the Parliament Act 2101 |
| Message | Since all the MPs hardly ever turn up at Parliament at the same time... yes I can. We already have 599 MPs and I hardly see debates turning into "quagmires". |
| Date | 15:18:48, August 27, 2005 CET | From | RSDP - Democratic Front | To | Debating the Parliament Act 2101 |
| Message | Indeed, and most of the work is done in committees. Most of the time during plenary debates only 50% of the MPs show up (or less), the only times those 749 would be in the Federal Parliament at the same time would be a speech of the Head of State, or a vote. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 437 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 94 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 68 |
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