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Bill: Second Ravenstijn Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Txurruka/Aperribai/Mayoz's OPX
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 2493
Description[?]:
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Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The right to appeal against a judgement rendered by a court.
Old value:: Every person has the right to appeal against a judgement and to have it reviewed by a higher court.
Current: Every person has the right to appeal against a judgement and to have it reviewed by a higher court.
Proposed: All judgements are final and binding; appealing against them is not possible.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The banking system.
Old value:: All banks are privately owned.
Current: All banks are privately owned.
Proposed: The government operates and owns all banks.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Weapon concealment.
Old value:: Any legal weapon may be concealed when carried.
Current: Any legal weapon may be concealed when carried.
Proposed: Where weapons are carried, this must be done openly.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change Energy regulation.
Old value:: Energy is provided by private, unregulated companies but subsidies are given to those on a low income.
Current: Energy is provided by private companies which are not subject to any special regulations.
Proposed: Energy is provided by nationalised companies.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change Ownership of guns by private individuals.
Old value:: Adult individuals are allowed to own and purchase guns freely.
Current: Individuals are allowed to own firearms as long as they do not have a history of dangerous mental illness or a violent criminality.
Proposed: Adult individuals may not own firearms unless professionally required.
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change Government policy on industry and subsidies to industrial operations.
Old value:: The government does not intervene in the market nor provide any form of subsidies/relief to industries.
Current: The government does not intervene in the market nor provide any form of subsidies/relief to industries.
Proposed: All industry is owned and operated by the state.
Article 7
Proposal[?] to change The nation's policy on minimum wage regulation.
Old value:: There is no provision for a minimum wage.
Current: There shall be a minimum wage at a level that a full time worker on it can support a family of four without falling under the poverty line.
Proposed: There shall be a minimum wage at a level considered a "living wage," well above the poverty line for a full time worker.
Article 8
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy on public nudity.
Old value:: Public nudity laws are left to local governments.
Current: There are no laws with regards to public nudity, it is allowed.
Proposed: There are no laws with regards to public nudity, it is allowed.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 11:33:40, November 28, 2007 CET | From | Revolutionary Democratic Socialists | To | Debating the Second Ravenstijn Act |
| Message | ummm- excuse me? you beat us too it i spose.... |
| Date | 22:14:56, November 28, 2007 CET | From | United Independent Front | To | Debating the Second Ravenstijn Act |
| Message | ?? What is this?? |
| Date | 00:06:32, November 29, 2007 CET | From | Revolutionary Democratic Socialists | To | Debating the Second Ravenstijn Act |
| Message | with the exception of the judicial thing of course. |
| Date | 00:09:43, November 29, 2007 CET | From | Revolutionary Democratic Socialists | To | Debating the Second Ravenstijn Act |
| Message | ALSO in this bill it calls for the nationaliseation of ALL industry. NOW seeing as the OPX is a privately run company (it operates on the stock exchange as a political company or advertising firm maybe0 then surely the OPX would have to be nationalised as well if this bill passes. if ALL industry becomes nationalised, so does the OPX, what would happen then if a political party wasnt running the state, but was a part of it? |
| Date | 10:23:05, November 29, 2007 CET | From |  Txurruka/Aperribai/Mayoz's OPX | To | Debating the Second Ravenstijn Act |
| Message | Like just about 95% of the bills of the OPX of the last century, this wasn't intended to pass. If it did, the universe would cease to exist because of the internal inconsistencies you pointed out. If socialism suddenly became so popular that this passed, then we'd have to re-assess our current policies (assuming the universe would continue to exist). |
| Date | 05:39:30, November 30, 2007 CET | From | Revolutionary Democratic Socialists | To | Debating the Second Ravenstijn Act |
| Message | I just really wish the bill had passed, theoretically, OPX would have been nationalised, which, would mean that whom ever controlled the sentate, would controll OPX? Which is just too complicated to consider |
| Date | 09:21:19, November 30, 2007 CET | From | Txurruka/Aperribai/Mayoz's OPX | To | Debating the Second Ravenstijn Act |
| Message | "would mean that whom ever controlled the sentate, would controll OPX?" But the OPX is part of the Senate. So, I'm just guessing here, you could two ways: *Nationalisation isn't so much about the government owning stuff as the people owning stuff which means if the OPX was nationalised, then the OPX has to vote along populist lines (if the people directly own it, they control it and can steer its direction). *If nationalisation is about the government owning stuff, I guess then that any seats that the OPX won would be divided amongst the cabinet. I say the cabinet because presumably the government can operate its own property with a simple majority. If a group of parties are cohesive enough to form government, then they are cohesive enough to alot the OPX's seats, which they effectively own, amongst themselves as they would ministerial portfolios. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 72 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 194 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 34 |
| Random fact: Submitting a bill without any proposals in it will not attract or detract voters. It will not raise your visibility or change your political position. |
| Random quote: "Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue." - Barry Goldwater |