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Bill: Adoption Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Royal Conservative Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2103
Description[?]:
| There is still some question as to whether a homosexual couple should be allowed to adopt children. We therefore propose that homosexuals be restricted from the adoption of children until a social study suggests that the sexual nature of the adopters will not have harmful social effects on the children in their care. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning who can proceed with adoption; in case adoption is legal.
Old value:: Everyone may adopt children.
Current: Everyone may adopt children.
Proposed: Only heterosexual couples may adopt children.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 00:54:24, August 27, 2005 CET | From | Cooperative Commonwealth Federation | To | Debating the Adoption Act |
| Message | lesbian and gay people have been adopting children for many years in Lodamun. There is no evidence of any harm being done to children. Most family violence is of course committed in heterosexual households. However, we would not suggest interfering with the rights of straight poeople to adopt children. The state has no place in the bedrooms of the nation. |
| Date | 03:30:22, August 27, 2005 CET | From |  Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Adoption Act |
| Message | We concur with Green Action. Gay people are people too. There is nothing to fear from gay people that is not also an issue with straight people. |
| Date | 03:31:26, August 27, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Adoption Act |
| Message | We concur with Green Action. Gay people are people too. There is nothing to fear from gay people that is not also an issue with straight people. |
| Date | 03:52:15, August 27, 2005 CET | From | Royal Conservative Party | To | Debating the Adoption Act |
| Message | Alas there is an issue when dealing with the social stigma that children will suffer in schools. Alas, school children are not old enough to understand the complex issues surrounding sexuality and as such, are likely to bully those with homosexual parents and thus damage their mental and physical well being. I therefore question whether the government should be placing children into a household where the aforementioned scenario is more likely. This is not an attack on homosexuality: is a choice for the individual and neither the law nor the government should be allowed to interfere with that choice and its repucussions (I call myself a moderate conservative for a reason). However, the welfare of children is at stake here. |
| Date | 03:56:31, August 27, 2005 CET | From | CNT/AFL | To | Debating the Adoption Act |
| Message | That argument may hold ground in a nation that traditionally represses the homosexual minority, but Lodamun has had progressive laws allowing same-sex marriage for close to 50 years, and sodomy has never been illegal. The social stigma only persists when children are brought up to believe that everyone should have a mother and a father, in a diverse and tolerant society like Lodamun, that shouldn't be a problem. |
| Date | 08:05:15, August 27, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Adoption Act |
| Message | From all the actual data available, we believe that Lodamun is a very progressive nation. LOD are the currency of choice for most international drug transactions, due to our progressive laws and offshore banking facilities. Our citizens come into contact with many different lifestyles and personal choices from a very young age, the most they have to worry about is a school system that shifts from private to public and back again every 4 to 8 years. |
| Date | 08:56:40, August 27, 2005 CET | From | Lodamun Centre-Left Coalition | To | Debating the Adoption Act |
| Message | The PCL upholds the same arguments of the Green Action and the Tuesday is Coming. Also as a member of the ILGRA, the vote/opinion is a resounding NO. |
| Date | 22:08:23, August 27, 2005 CET | From | Adam Smith Party | To | Debating the Adoption Act |
| Message | Opposed. No debate is needed on this from our point of view as any loving parent figure is better than an orphanage. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes | Total Seats: 70 | ||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 205 | ||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 25 |
| Random fact: Culturally Open nations can adopt advisory/non-enforceable Nation Descriptions. See http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=6242 |
| Random quote: "If it were proved to me that in making war, my ideal had a chance of being realized, I would still say 'No' to war, for one does not create human society on mounds of corpses." - Louis Lecoin |