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Bill: Acte D'Établissement D'Église
Details
Submitted by[?]: Parti Communiste de Rildanor
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 2495
Description[?]:
| An Act to Reestablish the Orthodox Catholic Church as Rildanor's state religion. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The state's intervention in the appointment of ministers of religion.
Old value:: The state does not intervene in the appointment of ministers of any religion whatsoever.
Current: The state does not intervene in the appointment of ministers of any religion whatsoever.
Proposed: The state appoints the head and ministers of the state religion, but does not intervene otherwise.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change
Taxation of religious institutions.
Old value:: No religions are taxed.
Current: Recognized religions are not taxed.
Proposed: Recognized religions are not taxed.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Remuneration of ministers of religion.
Old value:: The state does not intervene in the remuneration of ministers of religion.
Current: Ministers of religion shall receive no remuneration whatsoever.
Proposed: The salaries and pensions of ministers of religion shall be borne by the state and regulated by the law.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 17:49:08, November 30, 2007 CET | From | Parti Communiste de Rildanor | To | Debating the Acte D'Établissement D'Église |
| Message | Another Act that the PSC is keen on seeing pass. We will compromise as necessary as long as the fundamentals of this Act are not violated. |
| Date | 19:39:08, November 30, 2007 CET | From |  Front Canrillaise | To | Debating the Acte D'Établissement D'Église |
| Message | This bill seems a little too extreme for the new PA. We might be able to support articles 1-3, but articles 4 and 5 regarding religious clothing and schools are too intrusive. |
| Date | 01:21:15, December 01, 2007 CET | From | Front Nationaliste Royaliste | To | Debating the Acte D'Établissement D'Église |
| Message | Article 5 is too obtrusive even for our tastes, and we have serious reservations about the State becoming so deeply involved in the religious communities. At this point, we are confident that the present conservative government would not abuse these new rights and responsibilities, but we cannot express the same confidence for a Leftist government that might arise. At this point, we give a shaky support for this bill, if Article 5 is removed. |
| Date | 16:50:35, December 01, 2007 CET | From | Option Citoyenne | To | Debating the Acte D'Établissement D'Église |
| Message | Although we have no votes, we'd like to caution against this bill blurring the lines of separation of church and state. Ensuring the church is independent of government control is just as important as ensuring the church is not in control of the state. And like everyone else: Article 5 is just not acceptable in any way. |
| Date | 21:07:45, December 01, 2007 CET | From | Parti Communiste de Rildanor | To | Debating the Acte D'Établissement D'Église |
| Message | Articles 4 and 5 have been removed in the interest of consensus, but will be presented later as part of PSC's manifesto. |
| Date | 01:33:43, December 02, 2007 CET | From | Front Nationaliste Royaliste | To | Debating the Acte D'Établissement D'Église |
| Message | We would support the former Article 4. |
| Date | 01:49:25, December 03, 2007 CET | From | Parti Monarchiste Catholique | To | Debating the Acte D'Établissement D'Église |
| Message | This bill infringes upon the rights of the Church. We will not support. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 143 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 107 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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