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Bill: Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - Representation

Details

Submitted by[?]: Commonwealth Workers Army

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: November 2104

Description[?]:

In the interests of fair and equitable representation for all of our citizens, and in order to retain balance in government, the Anarch Anakrousite Party would like to offer up the suggestion that all parties be allowed to nominate for cabinet positions - with reliance upon the democratic process to decide the actual cabinet.

Old Law: Only the largest parties can propose a cabinet.

Proposed Reform: Each party can propose a cabinet coalition.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date18:14:09, August 29, 2005 CET
FromConservative Liberal Party
ToDebating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - Representation
MessageWe see this as being unnecessary and time consuming. The largest party has the best chance of forming a stable government, therefore it is given the first choice to form a cabinet always. If every party is allowed to put forward its own cabinet proposal it will increase the time for agreement to be reached, leaving Likatonia without a government.


Date20:24:52, August 29, 2005 CET
FromAM Radical Libertarian Party
ToDebating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - Representation
MessageHowever, it is possible that we may miss out on valuable ideas if we restrict the commerce of ideas in this fashion. Efficiency in government is not necessarily aligned with liberty; a toltarian dictatorship is very effecient.

Date23:41:40, August 29, 2005 CET
FromCommonwealth Workers Army
ToDebating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - Representation
MessageResponse to CPL: Why would we miss out on government? Surely we can run on the 'old' government until the new parliament is elected? Wouldn't that even be incentive to ALL the parties to get decisions made as swiftly as possible?

I disagree that the largest party would have the 'best chance' of forming a stable government - they'll just have the most input. As far as this oarty can see, there is absolutely NO reason why a 'mixed' cabinet should be inherently unstable - quite the opposite, in fact. It seems to the Anarch Anakrousite representatives, a combined cabinet serves to UNITE disparate groups, serves to reduce feelings of misrepresentation, serves to give the populace better representation, and creates a potential for more 'balanced' government.

Also - bear in mind that the actual cabinet selection will STILL be democratic - the largest parties will ALWAYS have an advantage.

Date11:49:37, August 30, 2005 CET
FromConservative Liberal Party
ToDebating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - Representation
MessageThat is true to a point, but the largest party will have the best chance of forming a coalition cabinet, and should automatically be given the first choice.

However under your system, a party such as mine, which has no seats currently due to not having participated in an election, will be able to propse a cabinet. This proposal will then have to be debated and voted upon, taking time away from other bills.

The 'old' government does run on until the new Parliament is elected currently, then we could wait several months longer than currently for the new government to form.

However this could be a good thing, and it will certainly boost smaller parties as they are given a more important say. We would be prepared to support this now, certainly for a trial after the net election.

Date17:13:08, August 30, 2005 CET
FromCommonwealth Workers Army
ToDebating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - Representation
MessageThe AAP takes the CPL concerns under advisement, and will hold bringing this proposal to a vote, until AFTER the next election.

Date17:14:12, August 30, 2005 CET
FromConservative Liberal Party
ToDebating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - Representation
MessageThankyou for your co-operation

Date22:00:26, August 31, 2005 CET
FromLiberal Party for Equality
ToDebating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - Representation
MessageIn theory it is a good idea. However in practice it would mean that no cabinet would pass as each party would be holding out for their own idea - we would be stuck with the old one for years. I understand that the current system is less freedom permitting, but the proposed one would be insanely inefficient.

Date01:35:07, September 02, 2005 CET
FromCommonwealth Workers Army
ToDebating the Anarch Anakrousite Reform Bill - Representation
MessageResponse to the LPE: The majority parties still hold a proportionate amount of leverage, within even combined governments, but this is almost an aside... The current legislation is intended to ALLOW the possibility of such 'combined' cabinets... it seeks in no way to ENFORCE them.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
     

Total Seats: 182

no
 

Total Seats: 0

abstain
  

Total Seats: 33


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