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Bill: Packet pour Soutenir Notre Troupes, Juin 2498
Details
Submitted by[?]: Union Démocrate Libertarien
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 2499
Description[?]:
| Drafted by William Adams, the Ministre de Défense and several other Sénateurs who are serving or have served in the armed forces of this state. The "Support our Troops" Package will legalize the measures the military has taken to protect its servicemen and servicewomen from political attacks on military authority and independence. As we enter into a state of war now, more than ever, is when we need as much manpower and autonomy from the government as possible and in order to accomplish this task, we need to remove the need for our females and homosexuals serving this state in its armed forces to undertake anonymity or have their anonymity preserved by our military commands. This military will continue to maintain its first oath of service and protect itself from enemies both foreign AND domestic. Article 0. Be it resolved that the Acte d'Uniformité, or any similar act which removes citizenship rights and property from a religious or atheist group, shall never be applied to members or former members of the military. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Military stance on homosexuality.
Old value:: Open homosexuality is not tolerated in the military. The military has a "don't ask, don't tell" policy.
Current: Homosexuality is allowed in the military.
Proposed: Homosexuality is allowed in the military.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Women in the military.
Old value:: Women can only serve in non-battle positions.
Current: Women serve alongside men.
Proposed: Women serve alongside men.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Women's working rights.
Old value:: Women are not allowed to perform potentially dangerous tasks.
Current: Women are entitled the same working rights as men.
Proposed: Women are entitled the same working rights as men.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 17:58:43, December 09, 2007 CET | From | Union Démocrate Libertarien | To | Debating the Packet pour Soutenir Notre Troupes, Juin 2498 |
| Message | Long Live the Fighters! ((OOC: I've been entertaining thoughts of becoming a pro-military dictatorship party. Should I?)) |
| Date | 18:01:52, December 09, 2007 CET | From | Union Démocrate Libertarien | To | Debating the Packet pour Soutenir Notre Troupes, Juin 2498 |
| Message | Surely, if amnesty was granted to civilian Jews and Protestants then amnesty can be granted to all non-Christians who serve and sacrifice themselves for Rildanor? How are our military men and women supposed to fight if their rights and property are revoked and they are expelled from this nation? |
| Date | 19:01:45, December 09, 2007 CET | From | Parti Radical et Radical-Socialiste | To | Debating the Packet pour Soutenir Notre Troupes, Juin 2498 |
| Message | The PR supports, assuming there is not a Caretaker Veto and an uneven split. OOC: It wouldn't work well for you... there are three right wing dictatorship parties and one leftwing one... no, that might be a bit harsh... but you see what I mean, besides the anarchists need a voice. |
| Date | 19:27:45, December 09, 2007 CET | From | Parti Communiste de Rildanor | To | Debating the Packet pour Soutenir Notre Troupes, Juin 2498 |
| Message | ((OOC: It would be rather silly and destructive to your own political ambitions for the reasons the Parti Radical gives, but heck, go for it. We'd love to see the libertarian left self destruct.)) |
| Date | 19:27:55, December 09, 2007 CET | From | Parti Communiste de Rildanor | To | Debating the Packet pour Soutenir Notre Troupes, Juin 2498 |
| Message | VETO! |
| Date | 20:42:27, December 09, 2007 CET | From | Parti Radical et Radical-Socialiste | To | Debating the Packet pour Soutenir Notre Troupes, Juin 2498 |
| Message | If the blocs are not even we will abstain in accordance with the Caretaker Agreement. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 150 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 150 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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