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Bill: Abolition of Death Penalty
Details
Submitted by[?]: Liberty Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 2105
Description[?]:
| We believe that the fundamental irreversibility of the death penalty, combined with the inevitability of human error and corruption means that we cannot have absolute certainty in an individual's guilt, we cannot permanently deprive him of his life. Or, as Amnesty International puts it, "The death penalty legitimizes an irreversible act of violence by the state and will inevitably claim innocent victims. Since human justice is fallible, the risk of executing the innocent will never be eliminated." |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy with respect to the death penalty.
Old value:: The death penalty is not applied, except for terrorism, treason and crimes against mankind.
Current: The death penalty is illegal and is never to be applied.
Proposed: The death penalty is illegal and is never to be applied.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 08:25:30, August 30, 2005 CET | From |  Imperialist Party | To | Debating the Abolition of Death Penalty |
| Message | Disagree. The right to use the death penalty should be reserved for extreme cases which warrant it. |
| Date | 16:28:09, September 01, 2005 CET | From | Liberty Party | To | Debating the Abolition of Death Penalty |
| Message | Well, if you can guarantee that no innocent person has or ever will be executed, then we will reconsider. |
| Date | 05:18:04, September 02, 2005 CET | From | Imperialist Party | To | Debating the Abolition of Death Penalty |
| Message | How can you guarantee that no innocent will be accidentally executed? You can't even guarantee that no innocent will be accidentally incarcerated. So do you propose that no criminal face incarceration? It's absurd. |
| Date | 11:42:50, September 02, 2005 CET | From | Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Abolition of Death Penalty |
| Message | Send to vote, we support |
| Date | 20:31:41, September 02, 2005 CET | From | Liberty Party | To | Debating the Abolition of Death Penalty |
| Message | Imperialist Party - that is precisely our point. As long as their is the risk of the state executing innocent people, there can be no place for it in a civilized society. We agree that innocent people are incarcerated, but at least they have the prospect of appeal, there is no appeal from death. |
| Date | 21:00:44, September 02, 2005 CET | From | Liberty Party | To | Debating the Abolition of Death Penalty |
| Message | Sorry, typo, it should read "As long as THERE is the risk of the state executing people". (slaps own forehead) Idiot. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 362 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 128 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 65 |
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