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Bill: Likatonian State Atheism
Details
Submitted by[?]: Democratic Workers' Party and CTUL List
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2501
Description[?]:
| This bill aims to eradicate all things religious in nature from Likatonian society for good. In extension of all articles included in this bill, the passage of this bill through Convocation WITH a 2/3 majority ( >= 444 seats ) will also formally signal fully-sanctioned official name change of the capital city from "St. Vodinsburg" to "Vodnograd". |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The state's intervention in the appointment of ministers of religion.
Old value:: The state does not intervene in the appointment of ministers of any religion whatsoever.
Current: The state does not intervene in the appointment of ministers of any religion whatsoever.
Proposed: The state nominates ministers of religion, but the appointment is left up to the religious communities themselves.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change
Taxation of religious institutions.
Old value:: Religions are treated as companies, and all profit is taxed, however, charitable donations are not taxed.
Current: Religions are treated as companies, and all profit is taxed, however, charitable donations are not taxed.
Proposed: All religious income, despite the use, is taxed.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The state's policy concerning religious clothing.
Old value:: There are no laws regulating the wearing of religious clothing and the wearing of religious symbols.
Current: Wearing religious clothing or religious symbols in public is illegal.
Proposed: Wearing religious clothing or religious symbols in public is illegal.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The governments stance on religious schools.
Old value:: Any religion may set up a school, with no regulations.
Current: Religious schools are not allowed.
Proposed: Religious schools are not allowed.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change Remuneration of ministers of religion.
Old value:: The state does not intervene in the remuneration of ministers of religion.
Current: The state does not intervene in the remuneration of ministers of religion.
Proposed: Ministers of religion shall receive no remuneration whatsoever.
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy with respect to prayer in schools.
Old value:: The government leaves this decision up to the schools themselves.
Current: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden, except in religious schools.
Proposed: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden.
Article 7
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning religions.
Old value:: There is no government policy concerning a state religion.
Current: There is no official state religion, but the government only allows recognized religions. 'Cults' are persecuted.
Proposed: Any form of religion is banned.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 18:51:18, December 12, 2007 CET | From | Axis Mundi Democratic Bloc | To | Debating the Likatonian State Atheism |
| Message | The SGP supports this bill. We seek a progressive country, something which would be made more difficult with a strong religious presence. |
| Date | 20:49:52, December 12, 2007 CET | From | Söhne der Freiheit | To | Debating the Likatonian State Atheism |
| Message | Absolutely not. |
| Date | 06:54:32, December 13, 2007 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Likatonian State Atheism |
| Message | While we could, perhaps, go either way on this - we have to oppose the name change. Why change the historical name of a town, just because that historical name was once based upon a religious figure? We're really not sure that's a good alternative anyway - almost all of our towns could be argued as named for religious figures... |
| Date | 07:21:48, December 13, 2007 CET | From | Permissive Social Union | To | Debating the Likatonian State Atheism |
| Message | The LFF opposes. |
| Date | 21:12:30, December 13, 2007 CET | From | Neue Kommunistische Liga | To | Debating the Likatonian State Atheism |
| Message | Of course. |
| Date | 21:19:44, December 13, 2007 CET | From |  Likaton Coalition of the Willing | To | Debating the Likatonian State Atheism |
| Message | The VP submit that the capital name change should not be permitted without a 2/3 majority, as is customary with such things. |
| Date | 22:17:51, December 13, 2007 CET | From | AM Radical Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Likatonian State Atheism |
| Message | AM RLP is in opposition. The historical nature of the name of our capitol must not be lost to political corrrectness |
| Date | 18:31:13, December 14, 2007 CET | From | Axis Mundi Democratic Bloc | To | Debating the Likatonian State Atheism |
| Message | We made a commitment as the SGP to support this bill. Even though there are aspect to it which we (the new AMDB) opposes, we intend to maintain our support of this bill. |
| Date | 07:21:44, December 15, 2007 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Likatonian State Atheism |
| Message | As an aside - are the PdA aware that trying to quash any connection (even if not a contemporary religious association), as they are with this St Vodinsburg push - would actually require us to rename all but 4 of our largest (or most important) cities? |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 238 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 360 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 68 |
| Random fact: If there are no parties in your nation with seats, feel free to visit the forum and request an early election on the Early Election Requests thread: http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=4362 |
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