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Bill: Ratification of the Treaty of Terina
Details
Submitted by[?]: 帝国公明党 (Teikoku Kōmeitō)
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill proposes for the ratification of a treaty. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor[?]. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 2503
Description[?]:
| This bill asks for the ratification of the Treaty of Terina. If this treaty is ratified, it becomes binding and will define national law. |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 07:12:42, December 17, 2007 CET |
From | Normand Pluralist Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Treaty of Terina | | Message | This treaty seems designed in particular to block the goals of the Normand Pluralist Party, as at least one of the provisions state, in essence "anything is acceptable except for local governance", and in all three of the provisions where local governance is an option, it has been removed.
We find this treaty particularly offensive for that reason. If the option of local governance for those three issues was included, we would, though we may disagree with many aspects of it, give serious consideration to supporting it for the sake of peace. |
| Date | 08:08:50, December 17, 2007 CET |
From | Pan-Sekowo Freedom Alliance | To | Debating the Ratification of the Treaty of Terina | | Message | The NPP was not the focus of this treaty, no consideration was given to victimising them at all. The two major sides to the Civil War were Nationalisation and Privitisation. Local Government lost out, we agree, but it lost out not to victimise a party, but because the comprimise between the two factions lay in a direction away from local government. |
| Date | 08:27:13, December 17, 2007 CET |
From | Pan-Sekowo Freedom Alliance | To | Debating the Ratification of the Treaty of Terina | | Message | Those are two different circumstances. Can you not see the difference between not wanting to have the party holding up peace talks as the leader of the government, and deliberatly crafting a peace treaty that effects the whole nation, simply to antagonise a minor player in the Civil War? |
| Date | 09:06:12, December 17, 2007 CET |
From | Normand Pluralist Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Treaty of Terina | | Message | We do not believe that the entire point of this treaty is to antagonize us. But we believe that provision were put in which the DSP desired which they knew we would find insupportable, simply because they could count on the turncoat support of certain members of the SPA, even though these elements do nothing but violate the principles of the Normand Politicaly Party. |
| Date | 09:22:22, December 17, 2007 CET |
From | Pan-Sekowo Freedom Alliance | To | Debating the Ratification of the Treaty of Terina | | Message | Turncoat?
We built the SPA, you left, because you wern't given enough power. You are at this time the only party who doesn't seem to want peace, and who isnt willing to comprimise.
The PSFVP is a supporter of local government, eyt we realise the importance of ending the war.
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| Date | 09:32:20, December 17, 2007 CET |
From | Normand Pluralist Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Treaty of Terina | | Message | We never left the SPA. We refused to take part in whatever operation on Hasowar you thought up because you betrayed the SPA in support the APP cabinet, and we weren't going to sacrifice lives for your scheming.
We have stated multiple times that we would like peace and are willing to compromise. Just not on two issues (which is, ironically, fewer than the APP are willing to compromise on). |
| Date | 10:07:52, December 17, 2007 CET |
From | Pan-Sekowo Freedom Alliance | To | Debating the Ratification of the Treaty of Terina | | Message | How many times must we say it, we never betrayed the SPA. We did what we did to ensure that the national cabinet was an impartial as possible.
If the NPP is so dedicated to the SPA, we invite them to point to all the many contributions they made to the cause? |
| Date | 10:16:29, December 17, 2007 CET |
From | Normand Pluralist Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Treaty of Terina | | Message | We have been fighting in our own particular way, and supporting the SPA and Democracy with words and votes.
The national cabinet really could have been more impartial, PSFVP, and you know it. Having less than 25% of the cabinet contain the VICTORS of the civil war (and the majority of Sekowo's popular support) really doesn't seem like much of an accomplishment to me.
OCC: Had the war lasted much longer, I would have contributed significantly to RP. As it was, I've been spending too much time on here; it's been the end of a very busy semester. I'm free now, though |
| Date | 00:38:36, December 18, 2007 CET |
From | Pan-Sekowo Freedom Alliance | To | Debating the Ratification of the Treaty of Terina | | Message | It essentially just means we are commited to a mixed economy, where the free market is free to flourish with in certain parameters, so it doesn't endanger our citizens through forced poverty etc. |
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| Vote |
Seats |
| yes | Total Seats: 267 |
| no | Total Seats: 102 |
| abstain | Total Seats: 381 |
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