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Bill: Chemical and Biological Warfare Defense Act, 2103

Details

Submitted by[?]: Corporate Raider Party

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: August 2107

Description[?]:

As the nation is pledged to no first use of chemical or biological weapons, and as other nations are actively developing such weaponry, we are at a defensive disadvantage as we have banned our own development of said weapons. In order to bring our defensive polices into agreement, passage of this measure would allow the Government to research and develop technologies to protect both civillians and military personnell from a chemical or biological attack.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date00:18:31, August 31, 2005 CET
FromCorporate Raider Party
ToDebating the Chemical and Biological Warfare Defense Act, 2103
MessageIt's in our interests to be prepared to defend against any sort of attack. I propose passage of this bill.

Date00:34:33, August 31, 2005 CET
FromRightist Party
ToDebating the Chemical and Biological Warfare Defense Act, 2103
MessageI tried this once and it failed but we shall support it.

Date01:21:06, August 31, 2005 CET
FromCorporate Raider Party
ToDebating the Chemical and Biological Warfare Defense Act, 2103
MessageI think it's only right, as we have the same policy on nuclear weapons. Our laws should be in agreement.

Date03:19:47, August 31, 2005 CET
FromPatriot Party
ToDebating the Chemical and Biological Warfare Defense Act, 2103
MessageWe oppose this bill.

Date23:47:56, August 31, 2005 CET
FromCorporate Raider Party
ToDebating the Chemical and Biological Warfare Defense Act, 2103
MessageWhy, PP?

Date22:26:47, September 01, 2005 CET
FromSocial Dynamist Party
ToDebating the Chemical and Biological Warfare Defense Act, 2103
MessageWe do not need another deterrent. An additional but weaker deterrent with obvious safety risks for Tukaralians is clearly an unnecessary expenditure of money which could be spent on our education.

Date23:35:10, September 01, 2005 CET
FromCorporate Raider Party
ToDebating the Chemical and Biological Warfare Defense Act, 2103
MessageAs we have pledged not to use nukes unless attacked first with nukes, they would not be a deterrent against a chem/bio attack. We already fund education at all levels. This is an important step for national security.

Date01:57:30, September 02, 2005 CET
FromPatriot Party
ToDebating the Chemical and Biological Warfare Defense Act, 2103
MessageWhats the point of gassing an enemy when they would obviously be prepared for that? There's no point to it.

Date22:29:27, September 02, 2005 CET
FromSocial Dynamist Party
ToDebating the Chemical and Biological Warfare Defense Act, 2103
Message"We already fund education at all levels."
Not particularly well.

"As we have pledged not to use nukes unless attacked first with nukes, they would not be a deterrent against a chem/bio attack."
The SDP would support a motion such that large-scale chemical and biological attacks (i.e. not necessarily assassinations) are to be considered nuclear weapons for the purposes deterrent.

Date10:05:13, September 04, 2005 CET
FromCorporate Raider Party
ToDebating the Chemical and Biological Warfare Defense Act, 2103
MessagePP, we have conventional forces, to repel conventional attacks. We have nuclear weapons to deter a nuclear attack. We don't have chem/bio weapons to deter an attack, nor do we allow any research to allow said resaerch to protect our citizenry. We are vulnerable. While the SDP's proposal is elegant in it's simplicity, a full scale nuclear war in response to chem/bio weapons is not the answer. As the Council seems opposed to our developing said weaponry, I'm changing the bill to a research only measure. I hpe a majority can at least stand up for protecting our citizens.

Date03:25:17, September 05, 2005 CET
FromPatriot Party
ToDebating the Chemical and Biological Warfare Defense Act, 2103
MessageWe still oppose. There is no point to have this since we have nuclear weapons.

Date20:51:53, September 05, 2005 CET
FromCorporate Raider Party
ToDebating the Chemical and Biological Warfare Defense Act, 2103
MessageWhy should our citizens not be protected from a chem/bio attack, even if we were to respond by nuking the attackers, PP?

Date23:09:18, September 05, 2005 CET
FromSocial Dynamist Party
ToDebating the Chemical and Biological Warfare Defense Act, 2103
Message"a full scale nuclear war in response to chem/bio weapons is not the answer"
We are not proposing a nuclear war, we are proposing a deterrent. A nuclear deterrent does not deter any less than a chemical/biological deterrent.
e.g. the claim "Why should our citizens not be protected from a chem/bio attack, even if we were to respond by nuking the attackers, PP?" makes no more sense than "Why should our citizens not be protected from a chem/bio attack, even if we were to respond by gassing/enervating the attackers, CRP?" - a chemical/biological deterrent does not protect in the slightest, nor does a nuclear deterrent: they only deter - and the latter more so than the former.

Date01:26:26, September 06, 2005 CET
FromCorporate Raider Party
ToDebating the Chemical and Biological Warfare Defense Act, 2103
MessageFine, SDP. Your point is well taken. Though I disagree with you in principle, I have removed the provision which allowed our development, manufacture, purchase and storage of said weapons. I've changed the measure to now allow only for the development of technologies to protect the people against a chem/bio attack. Surely you can support that?

Date02:50:35, September 06, 2005 CET
FromRightist Party
ToDebating the Chemical and Biological Warfare Defense Act, 2103
MessageWe'll support but we liked the original bill better!

Date22:52:12, September 06, 2005 CET
FromSocial Dynamist Party
ToDebating the Chemical and Biological Warfare Defense Act, 2103
MessageResearch into technologies so as we are prepared against an attack (e.g. we have the capability to produce efficient gas masks) we can support.

Date23:34:05, September 06, 2005 CET
FromCorporate Raider Party
ToDebating the Chemical and Biological Warfare Defense Act, 2103
MessageOutstanding! I am glad we are agreed. Let's put this to the floor before the elections.

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Voting

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Total Seats: 239

no
  

Total Seats: 60

abstain
  

Total Seats: 0


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