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Bill: Cabinet Proposal of November 2504

Details

Submitted by[?]: Saiserist League

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.

Voting deadline: August 2505

Description[?]:

Proposing a Cabinet

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date19:39:38, December 22, 2007 CET
From Irish Party
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of November 2504
MessageWe are disappointed to see that you included the Erisian Liberation Front after all that they've said.

Date19:42:41, December 22, 2007 CET
From Saiserist League
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of November 2504
MessageThey helped us, you didn't, IP.
You pushed for the NAM, they lost.
We're willing to make compromises with them to try and bring peace and progress to Zardugal.

Date00:19:18, December 23, 2007 CET
From Order Of The Illuminati
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of November 2504
Message"After all we've said? Exactly what do you mean, Irish Party? Are you opposed to the many stands we've taken in favor of increased personal liberties in our nation? Or how we've roundly condemned political violence? Or how we've made moves toward international peace by calling for an end to nuclear, biological and chemical weapons? Or how we've passionately voiced our opinions when they've been in opposition to other parties? Or how we're flexible, how we can compromise on many issues in favor of the greater good?

Or are you still stuck on our first bill, the controversial Cannibalism & Necrophilia Act that was designed to provoke thought and immediately establish a name for our new party on the political scene? If this is the case, it seems clear to me that the Irish Party is inflexible, set in its ways and unable to compromise. Why don't you, for once, put aside your prejudices, and help the country move past its recent turmoil, and help us usher in a new era of peace, progress and prosperity?" - Retroporn Omen

Date11:38:23, December 23, 2007 CET
From Irish Party
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of November 2504
Message"Communism does not bring progress or prosperity. And I was talking about how the ELF made a huge point about the ZRSP and their communist bills, condemning them immediately......and now the ELF is helping bring the ZRSP to power so that this bill and others can now be introduced with ease"

Date12:01:45, December 23, 2007 CET
From Order Of The Illuminati
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of November 2504
Message"I'm confused, Irish Party... are you attacking the ELF, communism, or both? You're 'disappointed' that the RSP 'included (us) after all (we've) said,' yet you attack them for their communism. Were they not allies of yours very recently?

We are a principled party, and we passionately debated issues with the RSP. We don't agree eye to eye with them on everything. We are not, and never have been, opposed to 'communism,' per se... what we are opposed to is big government and regulations that infringe upon the basic freedoms of Zardugali citizens. Indeed, we urge you to check out the Media Democratization Act that we proposed, which was passed, perhaps the most communist of all laws currently on the books in the nation right now. This represents our vision of Zardugal, in which communities of people, workers and the like, are empowered to run things as opposed to the government, political parties or multinational capitalists. We are primarily left libertarians, and we currently find far more common ground with our socialist sisters and brothers than we do with right-wingers.

In a country that is increasingly marred by political violence, two of the largest parties have decided to work together. We want to find common ground, and that is a noble thing! We said, 'we want peace, how can we make this happen?'

Perhaps instead of giving into your hatred and fear you should learn the art of compromise. Past disagreements do not mean we have no ability to work together on common fronts now. We have pledged to work with the RSP, and any other parties willing to work toward peaceful solutions for our country's problems.

At this point it is getting really weird that we are taking all the heat for the turmoil in the country when over and over and over and over and over and over again we keep introducing bills condemning violence, and we keep shouting for PEACE!"

- Retroporn Omen

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
   

Total Seats: 194

no
     

Total Seats: 207

abstain

    Total Seats: 0


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