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Bill: The Classical Liberal Party Manifesto of 2505
Details
Submitted by[?]: Union of Logic (The Original First One)
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 2507
Description[?]:
| Article 1 Click here to remove this proposal. Proposal[?] to change The right to perform an abortion for a pregnant woman. Old value:: Abortion is allowed during the first and second trimesters. Current: Abortion is allowed during the first and second trimesters. Proposed: Abortion is allowed during the entire course of the pregnancy. Article 2 Click here to remove this proposal. Proposal[?] to change The right for a person to prostitute himself or herself. Old value:: Prostitution is illegal. Current: Prostitution is illegal. Proposed: Prostitution is legal and a recognized profession. Article 3 Click here to remove this proposal. Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards smoking. Old value:: Smoking is prohibited. Current: Smoking is prohibited. Proposed: Smoking is legal everywhere, at the discretion of the property owner, but is illegal in government-owned buildings. Article 4 Click here to remove this proposal. Proposal[?] to change The government's stance on vaccinations. Old value:: The government mandates vaccination for all children. Current: The government mandates vaccination for all children. Proposed: The government takes no stand on vaccinations. Article 5 Click here to remove this proposal. Proposal[?] to change Government policy on the nation's power grid. Old value:: The national grid is fully owned by the State. Current: The national grid is fully owned by the State. Proposed: Multiple private companies each own and mantain sections of the national power grid. Article 6 Click here to remove this proposal. Proposal[?] to change Government policy toward marriage. Old value:: The government only recognises civil marriages between a man and a woman. Current: The government only recognises civil marriages between a man and a woman. Proposed: The government does not involve itself in marriage or civil unions. Article 7 Click here to remove this proposal. Proposal[?] to change The government's policy regarding Child Benefit. Old value:: The State guarantees child benefit to both low-income families and large families. Current: The State guarantees child benefit to both low-income families and large families. Proposed: The State does not provide child benefit. Article 8 Click here to remove this proposal. Proposal[?] to change Guarantee of minimum income. Old value:: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a very basic subsistence income by the government. However, the provision of this is not to exceed a certian period of time. Current: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a very basic subsistence income by the government. However, the provision of this is not to exceed a certian period of time. Proposed: There shall be no direct cash payments to individuals to guarantee a minimum income. Article 9 Click here to remove this proposal. Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the pension system. Old value:: The state operates a compulsory public system combined with an optional private pension. Current: The state operates a compulsory public system combined with an optional private pension. Proposed: The state does not operate a pension system. Individuals must save up for retirement on their own. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Policy on the legality of abortions
Old value:: Abortion is allowed during the first and second trimesters.
Current: Abortion is allowed during the entire course of the pregnancy.
Proposed: Abortion is allowed during the entire course of the pregnancy.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy regarding child benefit.
Old value:: The state guarantees child benefit to both low-income families and large families.
Current: The state guarantees child benefit to both low-income families and large families.
Proposed: The state does not provide child benefit.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Government policy on the nation's power grid.
Old value:: The national grid is fully owned by the state.
Current: The national grid is fully owned by the state.
Proposed: Multiple private companies each own and maintain sections of the national power grid.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change Government policy toward marriage.
Old value:: The government only recognises civil marriages between a man and a woman.
Current: The government allows all consenting adults to obtain civil marriage contracts.
Proposed: The government does not involve itself in marriage or civil unions.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change Guarantee of minimum income.
Old value:: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a very basic subsistence income by the government. However, the provision of this is not to exceed a certian period of time.
Current: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a reasonable, though not high, standard of living by the government.
Proposed: There shall be no direct cash payments to individuals to guarantee a minimum income.
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the pension system.
Old value:: The state operates a compulsory public system combined with an optional private pension.
Current: The state operates a compulsory, public pension system.
Proposed: The state does not operate a pension system. Individuals must save up for retirement on their own.
Article 7
Proposal[?] to change The right for a person to prostitute himself or herself.
Old value:: Prostitution is illegal.
Current: Prostitution is legal and a recognized profession.
Proposed: Prostitution is legal and a recognized profession.
Article 8
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards smoking.
Old value:: Smoking is prohibited.
Current: Smoking is legal outdoors and in private homes and clubs, but illegal indoors in all places of employment.
Proposed: Smoking is legal everywhere, at the discretion of the property owner, but is illegal in government-owned buildings.
Article 9
Proposal[?] to change The government's stance on vaccinations.
Old value:: The government mandates vaccination for all children.
Current: The government encourages vaccinations for children, but does not enforce them.
Proposed: The government takes no stand on vaccinations.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 00:58:36, December 25, 2007 CET | From | Civil Left-Wing Party of Al'Badara | To | Debating the The Classical Liberal Party Manifesto of 2505 |
| Message | No. Lower income families look to the government for help on things such as education, healthcare, and finacial help. Some individuals can't save up money to retire, others don't make enough money to provide healthcare for their childeren. This bill isn't giving more power to the people, it's taking aid away from the people who need. Classical Liberals? More like Classical Repulicans, or Traditonal Libertarians. |
| Date | 07:13:52, December 25, 2007 CET | From | Union of Logic (The Original First One) | To | Debating the The Classical Liberal Party Manifesto of 2505 |
| Message | And not supporting a government monopoly on sports right wing? Or supporting integration of the military? Or tolerance for gays? Left Wing? You mean left-wing homophobes? or social democrats? I believe you should catch up on some reading before you think you start branding. |
| Date | 07:17:36, December 25, 2007 CET | From | Union of Logic (The Original First One) | To | Debating the The Classical Liberal Party Manifesto of 2505 |
| Message | Because sadly I think that's sad if that's the only thing you can bring up. But back to the matters at hand. If the people don't have any taxes or extremely low ones then they will be able to produce more, be able to save more, and ultimately live better. What we do is we give people the power to do what they want. Not steal it and intrude in their lives and make monetary decisions for them. |
| Date | 03:55:25, December 26, 2007 CET | From | Civil Left-Wing Party of Al'Badara | To | Debating the The Classical Liberal Party Manifesto of 2505 |
| Message | You think it's sad that thhe issues I brought up are "sad" to you. I'm not suggesting high taxes for lower income families, but they need to depend on governmental programs that need to be payed fopr some how. And yes this is all I brought up because I do agree with many things in this bill, but I don't agree with few of the things I consider big. I agree with you 100% on social issues. I am not homophobic by any means, and I am very pro-choice. |
| Date | 04:09:38, December 26, 2007 CET | From | Union of Logic (The Original First One) | To | Debating the The Classical Liberal Party Manifesto of 2505 |
| Message | No I know it's sad how you want to brand us. You want people to depend on government. It's where you get your power. But making sitiuations livable people can live on there own without government. |
| Date | 04:13:50, December 26, 2007 CET | From | Civil Left-Wing Party of Al'Badara | To | Debating the The Classical Liberal Party Manifesto of 2505 |
| Message | The disagreement comes on ecconomic areas. I totally see where your coming from on taxes and lowering taxes and cutting spending where it is not needed is a must. But I think that by cutting to many needed state and government programs such as childerens benifeits, is bad. Why don't you look at the bills I proposed and voted on in the past, it may help you define me. Thank you. By the way, before judging me and naming people "homophobes" (as I have proposed names for your party based on your policies from the bill) recommend a name that would fit their policies. |
| Date | 20:31:34, December 26, 2007 CET | From | Holy Islamic Union | To | Debating the The Classical Liberal Party Manifesto of 2505 |
| Message | While the H.I.U. respects your goal to improve freedoms, this is to much to fast. Perhaps you could take separate bills that we could debate on, as we just got through the communist reformation. |
| Date | 03:29:34, December 27, 2007 CET | From | Union of Logic (The Original First One) | To | Debating the The Classical Liberal Party Manifesto of 2505 |
| Message | I understand, however this is to gain more visibility. But in the future they will be proposed sperately. (With some manifestos aimed at changing the party's entire position.) |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 19 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 643 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 87 |
| Random fact: Particracy allows you to establish an unelected head of state like a monarch or a president-for-life, but doing this is a bit of a process. First elect a candidate with the name "." to the Head of State position. Then change your law on the "Structure of the executive branch" to "The head of state is hereditary and symbolic; the head of government chairs the cabinet" and change the "formal title of the head of state" to how you want the new head of state's title and name to appear (eg. King Percy XVI). |
| Random quote: "Poverty is like punishment for a crime you didn't commit." - Eli Khamarov |