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Bill: Separation of Church and State Freedom of Religion bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: JDW Tukarali Greens Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 2509
Description[?]:
| There is no government policy concerning a state religion. the gov is the last place to look in the world for sensibility regarding which religions are "cults" and which are not. separation of church and state REQUIRES the gov not to sponsor, favor, or disfavor a state religion. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards evangelism and religious advertising.
Old value:: Religions are required to obtain government approval before promoting themselves or advertising in any manner.
Current: Religions are permitted to freely promote and advertise themselves.
Proposed: Religions are permitted to freely promote and advertise themselves.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Remuneration of ministers of religion.
Old value:: The salaries and pensions of ministers of religion shall be borne by the state and regulated by the law.
Current: The state does not intervene in the remuneration of ministers of religion.
Proposed: The state does not intervene in the remuneration of ministers of religion.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning religions.
Old value:: There is no official state religion, but the government only allows recognized religions. 'Cults' are persecuted.
Current: There is an official state religion, but membership is completely voluntary.
Proposed: There is no government policy concerning a state religion.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 06:14:51, December 25, 2007 CET | From | JDW Tukarali Greens Party | To | Debating the Separation of Church and State Freedom of Religion bill |
| Message | the gov is the last place to look in the world for sensibility regarding which religions are "cults" and which are not. separation of church and state REQUIRES the gov not to sponsor, favor, or disfavor a state religion. |
| Date | 06:35:44, December 25, 2007 CET | From | Tukarali Graenix Party | To | Debating the Separation of Church and State Freedom of Religion bill |
| Message | This is very good, I'll have to give my props. But this is politics, no matter if something follows the constitution or not, it still could go down. But seeing as this would be an actual separation of church and state, to the fullest, I'm leaning to supporting this. |
| Date | 18:30:19, December 25, 2007 CET | From | Rightist Party | To | Debating the Separation of Church and State Freedom of Religion bill |
| Message | I'll support article 1 and that's about it. |
| Date | 03:43:36, December 26, 2007 CET | From | Monacelli Party | To | Debating the Separation of Church and State Freedom of Religion bill |
| Message | we'll support. Although we would like to retain article 3 as is current, full support to this. |
| Date | 05:44:29, December 26, 2007 CET | From | Judicial Union Party | To | Debating the Separation of Church and State Freedom of Religion bill |
| Message | We will support, although we prefer the current second article. |
| Date | 17:44:19, December 26, 2007 CET | From | Rightist Party | To | Debating the Separation of Church and State Freedom of Religion bill |
| Message | If you all prefer a certain amendment but oppose others, you should oppose this bill. There is no reason why you all should support a full bill because of one article. we spport article 1 but will vote no if this is sent in its current form. |
| Date | 18:58:57, December 27, 2007 CET | From | Shaman's Voice | To | Debating the Separation of Church and State Freedom of Religion bill |
| Message | It seems okay by us |
| Date | 02:35:31, December 28, 2007 CET | From | JDW Tukarali Greens Party | To | Debating the Separation of Church and State Freedom of Religion bill |
| Message | all three are interlinked in terms of protecting the separation of church and state. other than stating their own personal preference no other party has explained how the three articles are not interlinked. |
| Date | 18:08:44, December 30, 2007 CET | From | Greenish Liberal Democratic Socialists | To | Debating the Separation of Church and State Freedom of Religion bill |
| Message | We're gonna oppose this |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 205 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 294 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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